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Latest from kenya: desmond tutu has offered his mediation services to kenya. Boo
 
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Latest from kenya: desmond tutu has offered his mediation services to kenya. Boo
this beyond tutu and MANDELA if you like. Its kenyans who can stop this. TUTU can try west africa.
 
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this beyond tutu and MANDELA if you like. Its kenyans who can stop this. TUTU can try west africa.
Desmond Tutu´s offer is appreciated but we already know the solution. It´s Kibaki to Resign nothing else
 
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It is very important to think seriously before saying anything concerning politics.Especially when it is concerning a whole nation..
 
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Senator Obama should add his voice to the call for peace and mediation.
 
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Default Advice for Tutu - 01-01-2008, 06:44 PM

All Tutu has to do is call Kibaki and ask him to resign and save the country.

I doubt he will listen though. So the remaining legal options available (excluding courts which are full of his cronies) like mass demonstrations will go ahead as scheduled and then indefinately until Kibaki accepts the reality.

The presidential election was a fraud and therefore the result is invalid.
 
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Default Kibaki Must Go. Kenya is a democratic Nation - 01-01-2008, 06:55 PM

We did not vote for Kibaki. There is sufficient evidence that we Kenyans voted overwhemingly for the Opponent (Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga).

In as much as i may appreciate Desmond Tutu´s offer, Kibaki should resign with immediate effect, Re-count of ballots to be done and the will of the voters to prevail.Otherwise the Kenyan police force will realise that their bullets will fail to tamper with our ballots..

Kibaki Must Go because we rejected him. The fourth President of Kenya is Raila Amolo Odinga not Kibaki.
 
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Default umoja - 01-01-2008, 07:37 PM

raila is not a representative for kenyans.if he is indeed, he should shun the hooligan style chaos in the country. there would have been chaos even if he won. talking of rigging; there were no domestic or international observers in nyanza and generally rift valley coz people feared for their lives. so what did ODM do? overinflate figures and nobody is talking about it.for instance sigor, eldoret north,narok south,kisumu rural had the following voter turnouts respectively; 115%, 116%,120% and 102%. jameni do you need to fight over this.
 
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Default Kenya: I Acted Under Pressure, Says Kivuitu - 01-01-2008, 09:57 PM

Kenya: I Acted Under Pressure, Says Kivuitu





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The East African Standard (Nairobi)

2 January 2008
Posted to the web 1 January 2008

Isaac Ongiri
Nairobi

On Tuesday night, Mr Samuel Kivuitu made a damning admission that he announced results of the fiercely contested presidential election under pressure.

The announcement plunged the country into a post-election violence of a scale never witnessed before.


The magnitude of the Electoral Commission chairman's admission and the further dent on the credibility of the election was captured in his answer when asked if indeed President Kibaki won the elections: "I do not know whether Kibaki won the election".

Kivuitu continued with his stunning revelations when he said he took the presidential election winner's certificate to State House, Nairobi, after "some people threatened to collect it while I'm the one mandated by law to do so".

"I arrived at State House to take the certificate and I found the Chief Justice there, ready to swear-in Kibaki," Kivuitu said.

On claims that he was under undue pressure to declare results, Kivuitu said: "Some PNU (Party of National Unity) and ODM-Kenya leaders put me under pressure by calling me frequently, asking me to announce the results immediately".

President Kibaki ran for re-election on a Party of National Unity ticket, while Mr Kalonzo Musyoka, made his bid on an ODM-Kenya ticket. Mr Raila Odinga, who has said he was robbed of victory, ran on an Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) ticket.

On Tuesday, Kivuitu said the alleged pressure to declare results came in the wake of parallel pressure from a number of ambassadors from the European Union countries and Mr Maina Kiai of the Kenya National Commission on Human Rights not to announce the results until complaints, which arose, were addressed.

"I had thought of resigning, but thought against it because I don't want people to say I'm a coward," he said. The embattled ECK chairman made the revelations shortly after meeting with 22 ECK commissioners.

On Tuesday, Kivuitu conceded that matters that arose from the poll results were so urgent that they should be taken to court, and the ruling done with minimum delay to ease national tension.

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"If this matter is finally taken to court, the ruling should be made urgently so that if it were decided that Raila is the President, so be it. If it is Kibaki, so be it," he added.

Kivuitu said he made the decision, whose far-reaching implications are now being felt across the country. He said he announced the results because the commission had no legal mandate to investigate complaints raised by the opposition immediately.

Kivuitu fell short of naming the individuals from the two parties - PNU and ODM-Kenya - who coerced him to announce the disputed poll outcome, but went on to announce that the commission was consulting eminent lawyers over the next course of action "so that its actions remain within the law".

The EU observer team has discredited the poll results and urged for an independent audit.

On his part, Kivuitu said he backed independent investigation into what may have happened, but added that this would be only if the law would provide for it.

"We are culprits as a commission. We have to leave it to an independent group to investigate what actually went wrong," the chairman said, stunning local and international journalists, who had gathered at his Nairobi residence.

It has also emerged that some countries concerned with the poll outcome, like South Africa, had sent in their electoral officials to the country.

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Kivuitu said the officials would be arriving on Wednesday "to look into the matter".

On Tuesday, Kivuitu was in a meeting with his 22 commissioners, which his deputy, Mr Kihara Muttu, described as "a house-keeping meeting".

In a signed statement, the 22 commissioners condemned the violence, which up to last night had claimed the lives of about 300 people.



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raila is not a representative for kenyans.if he is indeed, he should shun the hooligan style chaos in the country. there would have been chaos even if he won. talking of rigging; there were no domestic or international observers in nyanza and generally rift valley coz people feared for their lives. so what did ODM do? overinflate figures and nobody is talking about it.for instance sigor, eldoret north,narok south,kisumu rural had the following voter turnouts respectively; 115%, 116%,120% and 102%. jameni do you need to fight over this.


if odm rigged like u claim, then why would they be stupid enough to demand a recount????? theres no other way around it. the whole world knows votes were stolen in favor of kibaki. no need to try turning the tables around.
"The Odinga camp urged election officials to recount votes after exposing
serious discrepancies between the votes initially announced on the day
after the election versus the numbers that were then later entered into a
national tally."
 
 


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