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[Rojos 5]

Originally Posted by omin

The root cause of the current problem in Kenya is a perception by other tribes that Kikuyus are having an unfair share of the national cake. Of course this is not true as it is only Kibaki and his clique that is benefiting from his being in power. It is time Kikuyu leaders came up and denounced Kibaki.

Very true until you look at the elections and see that 97% of central voted for Kibs.
Question would be why support someone who is not helping or offering to help you?
Denouncing Kibs may not do much good at this time.

[Githongo made me wise..]

Originally Posted by deviantone

ALL4sure

Seriously dont you thinkl the Luos in Kisumu should realise that they are fighting themselves. I am glad Nyanza is quite far from Central because this would have been Rwanda repeated.

Kibaki should step down that I agree. But i would also like for Raila to tell his supporters to cool down, Its never fair when citizens kill each other for the benefit of the politician who has never done anything for them. Look at Kibera as an MP for all those years dont you think Raila should have tried to improve the situation there just a little bit. I think Kenyans should ask themselves whether the status of living will change even if that politician comes to power.

I think you are behind the news.

More than fourty kikuyus were burnt alive in Eldoret.I don´t believe they must go to central province to find kikuyus.Kyuks are almost everywhere in Kenya.

In as much as I condemn Violence, Kibaki resigning from the illegally occupied office could work positively.Otherwise if he chooses to stay on, It will be difficult for us (Kyuks) for the next five years.Mwai wa Kibaki has his guards 24 hours. What about us?? Kibaki was fooled to rig the elections. The best thing he can do is to resign and if am wrong, then let him call for fresh elections to prove me wrong or right.

[omin]

Originally Posted by Rojos 5

Very true until you look at the elections and see that 97% of central voted for Kibs.
Question would be why support someone who is not helping or offering to help you?
Denouncing Kibs may not do much good at this time.

Kivuitu, May the devil take your soul.
I have just listened to the Kivuitu interview on Y-tube
Kivuitu rigged Moi back to power ( or let Moi do it ) with impunity and he thought he could do it again. Kivuitu, may your soul roast in hell!

[omin]

Originally Posted by kanyonikanja

REally? It has nothing to do with ethnicity? Why then, is the fighting front based on tribes? Why isn't the entire country aflame, with every man against the other? Why only in Kisumu and the Rift Valley, and why are the gikuyu largely the target? Other tribes also voted for Kibaki, but they are not being targeted as much as Gikuyu.
You are as convincing as those people who constantly tell us that Islam is a religion of peace and respect of all people.

HOGWASH!

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[kadit]

Kibaki did not start this violence. THe violence started even before the results were announced. Plus, him resigning doesn't solve any problem, He first has to make peace with Raila Odinga because you never know, Raila might revenge to some tribes once he is given the seat. That's what Luo tribes are imposing to kiuks that they are going "to pay". So, Kibaki resigning doesn't solve anything

[uncivilised]

Originally Posted by kanyonikanja

REally? It has nothing to do with ethnicity? Why then, is the fighting front based on tribes? Why isn't the entire country aflame, with every man against the other? Why only in Kisumu and the Rift Valley, and why are the gikuyu largely the target? Other tribes also voted for Kibaki, but they are not being targeted as much as Gikuyu.
You are as convincing as those people who constantly tell us that Islam is a religion of peace and respect of all people.

HOGWASH!

very true kanyoni

these hooligans have targetted kyuks. I have tried to stay away from this topic and hope that it will all be well in kenya soon but the more I enter here i just wonder, kwanini?
Like it or not kibaki was anounced the pezo.
kama wako na shida go thru the right channels and maybe mtasaidiwa.
You say the march and or demos are peaceful but what happens after, they all go looting and destroying public property.
Kwani who do they think they are?
Kibaki let them do the march and if any property is vandalised or peace seems to be breached mwaga gsu fagia wote with live amo. Kwani wakikufa 1Million iko nini? you cannot go disturbing other kenyans who are going on with their daily lives. Wacha wakufe we will mourn them.

Mau Mau

[omin]

[QUOTE=uncivilised;582368]very true kanyoni

these hooligans have targetted kyuks. I have tried to stay away from this topic and hope that it will all be well in kenya soon but the more I enter here i just wonder, kwanini?
Like it or not kibaki was anounced the pezo.
kama wako na shida go thru the right channels and maybe mtasaidiwa.
You say the march and or demos are peaceful but what happens after, they all go looting and destroying public property.
Kwani who do they think they are?
Kibaki let them do the march and if any property is vandalised or peace seems to be breached mwaga gsu fagia wote with live amo. Kwani wakikufa 1Million iko nini? you cannot go disturbing other kenyans who are going on with their daily lives. Wacha wakufe we will mourn them.

Mau Mau[/QUOTE

Kwani wakikufa 1Million iko nini?

Stop your irresponsible remarks! we can debate but stop calling for people to be killed!

[uncivilised]

@ omin
Irresponsible the remarks might be but
Practise what you preach, hapana sema unafanya peaceful demos then end up destroying public and private property na take innocent kenyans lives and expect it to be just.
Mfanyie ndugu yako vile ungependa akufanyie.
mtoto akililia wembe mpe panga ndio akijikata kidole kianguke kesho hatarudia.

[kizuri]

So why is it we all sat there for 25 years during Moi's regime without saying a word? In some ways Kibaki must be seen as easy. Rigging or no rigging it does not equate to killing people and raping women. We say we are civilized in Kenya and are we?

The world is watching and thinking, Africa goes again. Don't we ever learn; there are other ways of doing things. We saw it happen in Rwanda, Somalia, Sudan etc. What will it take and always, the poor suffer most.

We all depend on one another; already food is running low for most not to mention all those who are now refugees in their own country.

Perhaps its time that all those politicians from the old regimes which includes Raila and Kibaki step down.

[kizuri]

We have the solutions within us and all is possible in the presence of rapport which is something we all do very well in our african culture. I am amazed by all this talk about democracy, we had democracy even before the colonial governments. That is how elders made decisions, how it's done during ceremonies etc. We have so much to celebrate, why have we forgotten so much our most admired values by the western world. We are behaving exactly how those who look down on Africans would like us to. We have to take responsibility for our lives, create the future we want to have for our continent, country villages.

We need to start the healing process right now and it has to start within, individually. I love Kenya and Africa, I long for the day I will see a vibrant and confident continent, feeling worthy and full of integrity. It is all there if we only dare to look. Why do we hate ourselves so much?

Others come and enjoy our people, the beauty and the best in our country of our country. Whilst we miss it all. We have so much potential if we can start to learn to love and trust again. We all want the same things at the end of the day. The hatred is so misplaced. A waste of energy if only this energy could be directed into something positive. Politicians use the same division tactics that were used by the colonial governments and we rise up to it.

I was distressed earlier when i saw a young luo mother being interviewed today, she watched her husband killed. How do you recover from that? Or even the other kikuyu mother who's 5 yr old was thrown into that church fire! We all hurt, all want love, peace, kindness, fairness, health, food etc.

So we suddenly don't value life, killing even children. What did they ever do?

If killing kikuyus is the solution, then there's a lot to be done and by the time we are done, i can not comprehend the smell raking in the air and those left will have to leave just to get away from it. And not forgetting hunger and lack of everything else since all will be busy killing the kyuks. So it doesn't look like it will be 'live happily ever after' after all!

We are better than this!