Message from +viktxxx - Kenya needs to ...

[thereever]

I have just read the standard article on what kivuitu said. I’m stunned what he said. Anybody with an IQ slightly higher than that of a sheep will arrive at the following conclusions:
1. When he was asked whether he believes that kibaki won the election and his answer being that he didn’t know, it implies that the Kivuitu who announced the results is different from the one who was responded to that question. I thus liken him to a warthog. I’m told that when warthogs are being chased by an enemy and they have just outrun the enemy after a short while, they forget that the enemy is still at their heels hence stops oblivious of everything only to be punced on a moments later. Kivuitu is forgetting that three days ago, he firmly declared that kibaki as the president. Its insane to now say that he doesn’t know.
2. He claims that some people threatened to come and get the certificate from him if he did not take it to state house. If he didn’t know who the legitimate president was or did not concur with what he just announced, he would have just refused to hand over the certificate, let the people who threatened him pick it up. That way, he would have exonerated himself from blame. By handing it over to kibaki, it implies that he acknowledged that Kibaki was the winner. He thus acts like a kid. Have you ever seen two babies fighting and one of them hits the other. The aggrieved starts crying, the culprit realizing that he has done a mistake starts crying too. In the end, he also gets some sympathy.
3. When he said that he was under pressure from PNU and ODM-K to announce the results, it shows that he is a coward. I therefore conclude that he is not the same Kivuitu who was caught no camera telling ODM supporters that nobody can intimidate him. If indeed he was under pressure from anybody, he should have just said that in public with the media present instead of announcing the result - nobody would have dared touch him.
4. When he says that he did not resign because people would think that he is a coward, I think he is out of brains completely- to be forced to announce the results by PNU and ODM-K and bow to their demand is not an act of bravely. If indeed he weren’t a coward, which he is, he would have resigned in public. That would have made him a man of valor.
5. He claims that his team his consulting with lawyers to find a way forward if “its within the law”. This is an acknowledgment that the commission rigged in Kibaki. ECK would be arrested since we have a confession from them and be charged with election fraud and treason. Moreover, some of its members have disowned the results. I therefore wonder if indeed they ever met and decided on this. In fact he accepts that they are culprits. - He should be sentenced immediately at his own admission.
6. He claims that he backs an independent authority to look into the results. This is an admission that ECK was partisan. In other words he is admitting that they favored Kibaki. Therefore, he fell short of saying that kibaki is not the winner of the elections. He is being clever when he further says that this can only happen if the law allow, he is acknowledging that he knows nothing about law more specially to that deals with elections. He is worked in ECK for long and by now, laws that govern elections in Kenya should be at his fingertips. He was bragging that he has monitored elections in many countries and has a lot of experience. I think the experience he is talking about is that of rigging elections in the animal kingdom- not human beings. He therefore doesn’t deserve to be in charge of elections whereby voters are sober human beings. Let him get fired immediately.

My conclusion is that kivuitu knew what he was doing and he should be held responsible. He is trying to exonerate himself from blame because he wasn’t anticipating that Kenyans would react like this. He thought Kenyans are still stupid. He should be held responsible for installing an illegitimate president and instigating chaos all over Kenya. This is treason and should be taken seriously. I knew this would happen when he started saying that he remembers kibaki calling people pumbavu back in makerere. This only tells us that he admires him and its no news that he rigged him in.
There was an article in standard a few days ago titled “how to rig an election” in the east African. The author outlined the events that were to occur the way they have occurred until I started thinking that this author had some inside information. I Urge you Kenyans to find it and read it. It’s exactly what has happened.

[wakanyinge]

Originally Posted by Jaugenya

If you feel we should not fight, tell Kibaki to relinguish power. Otherwise expect the GSU killing civilians as civilians retaliate on Kikuyus. It is only Kibaki who can save the situation by resigning

this may not happen u should be calling for peace continuing this kind of talk will only cause more deaths.

[wakanyinge]

Originally Posted by Githongo made me wise..

First of all,

A church was burnt with 30 kikuyus inside but this never took place in Kisumu.If my memory serves me well, it was Eldoret.

There were Matatus burnt in Mombasa which is hundreds of kilometers away from Kisumu.While Nakuru, Nairobi and all other major cities have experienced similar rates of violence. The people are simply saying that they don´t endorse Kibaki but Hon. Raila Odinga.

My message to the people;

You elected Hon. Raila Odinga as President of the Republic of Kenya. Do not rest before your vote is respected. Bullets should never match your Patriotic ballot. I congratulate you the young men of our great country.

Kibaki Must Go..

Nothing less

you are disgusting in the way u think fighting any longer will not solve the problem.Railla must also start calling for peace as well as Kibaki stop insightin pple and u r probably not in kenya, u may not be suffering.

[girl82]

Originally Posted by all4sure

Jaugenya you are one lost and confused Kenyan if at all u are a Kenyan...You fail to realize that it's not only Kikuyus who are being killed.. Luos and other tribes too are dying in the process. Kisumu has been worst hit by food water and electricity shortage and the place worst hit by the destruction of property it Kisumu!!!!!!!!!!!! Central, Eastern no property is being destroyed no people dying there, and you still say people should continue to fight...When all the young people of Kisumu have died and all the property of the lakeside town is burnt and destroyed is that when you will tell people to stop fighting?????!!!! Think Think and Think Again and then reason out!!!.....you and the likes of you need to set aside your self pride and save your people & property and Kenya at large .....Luos claim to have some of the most educated lot in the country, that intelligence should be put to work here...not the other way round....Think!!!

I have just been informed that there are killings between limuru and naivasha on Kenyan citizens. Unaulizwa utoe kitambulisho. In other areas in central, if you don't own the house you leave in, then you are evicted then killed in the street so that the house is saved.

[deviantone]

ALL4sure

Seriously dont you thinkl the Luos in Kisumu should realise that they are fighting themselves. I am glad Nyanza is quite far from Central because this would have been Rwanda repeated.

Kibaki should step down that I agree. But i would also like for Raila to tell his supporters to cool down, Its never fair when citizens kill each other for the benefit of the politician who has never done anything for them. Look at Kibera as an MP for all those years dont you think Raila should have tried to improve the situation there just a little bit. I think Kenyans should ask themselves whether the status of living will change even if that politician comes to power.

[omin]

Originally Posted by wakanyinge

this may not happen u should be calling for peace continuing this kind of talk will only cause more deaths.

The only way to stop these killings is for KIKUYU leaders - polititians, church leaders, business men and the like to come up openly and oppose Kibaki. They should tell him that he rigged the elections for himself and his selfish friends and not for the KIKUYUS. That he had it coming right form the time he dishonoured MOU, that the writing was on the wall during the referendum. That this is his war and not th KIKUYUS' war.

[jeep02]

Originally Posted by Githongo made me wise..

The Rwandese Problem did not emanate from an election fraud.It was ethno-politics. Kenya´s Problem is simple and cheap to solve, KIBAKI TO RESIGN.

i conquer with you that the Rwanda problem was ethno-political.what actually happened in rwanda is that the news media played a crucial role in the 1994 Rwanda genocide: local media fuelled the killings, while the international media either ignored or seriously misconstrued what was happening.
but my argument was if we can use the media in a more substantial manner rather than calling for the killing of innocent people.most of us posting here comments are not in Kenya but we can help stop or continue fueling the crisis by i/responsible use of the media.

[Ishka]

It is quite unfortunate that what started as a peaceful electoral process has ended up like this. Back when introducing "first change" in early 90 was a case of state vs. the people. But is burning women and children in church the change we are looking for?
Neither Kibaki nor Raila is greater than Kenya. It is a shame what they have brought us to. This affects everyone of us in and out of Kenya.

[omin]

The root cause of the current problem in Kenya is a perception by other tribes that Kikuyus are having an unfair share of the national cake. Of course this is not true as it is only Kibaki and his clique that is benefiting from his being in power. It is time Kikuyu leaders came up and denounced Kibaki.

[M.W.A.F.R.I.K.A]

Originally Posted by omin

The root cause of the current problem in Kenya is a perception by other tribes that Kikuyus are having an unfair share of the national cake. Of course this is not true as it is only Kibaki and his clique that is benefiting from his being in power. It is time Kikuyu leaders came up and denounced Kibaki.

My sentiments exactly...