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Originally Posted by acq
What about the believe that if u eat pork u go to hell and if u take ur life (suicide bombers) u go to heaven?
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I hate having to defend Islam because I think it's a repugnant religion, but at times I have to when Christians (I assume acq is a Christian) call out Islam on things which are also there in Christianity.
e.g. eating pork. God categorically forbade his people from eating pork in the Bible:
Leviticus 11:7-8 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
So it's just assinine for a Christian to "innocently" ask about Islam and pork when his own god also forbids him from eating pork. Of course that will in no way stop the Christian from eating his pork Farmers Choice sausages tomorrow morning because "god, as Jesus, changed his perfect mind in the NT and we're now allowed to eat whatever we want."!
For those who care, read the entire chapter of Leviticus 11, you'll be surprised at how many things god forbade his followers from eating. As an FYI, if you had pals to take your chic for a shrimp and lobster dinner tonight, forget it because eating those is an abomination in his eyes!
As for suicide bombers, I think it's a repugnant idea that anyone could believe that a good god would take them to heaven if they committed suicide while killing other people. I am 100% for those Christians who condemn Islam in the strongest terms for these types of atrocities. These Christians also claim how their god is greater than Allah because he would never sanction such a barbaric belief. But these same Christians seem to forget that the first suicide "bomber" ever was a man of god - Samson (Delilah's booty call). Samson prayed to god to give him strength to commit suicide and with his death to kill 3,000 Phillistines:
Judges 16:28-30 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord God, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes. And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left. And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines.
The fact that god gave Samson the strength to do it means that god approved of this suicide "bombing"! That is a fact that even the most rabid Christian apologist here cannot dispute! 3,000 people is a ton of people to kill for losing your eyesight, especially considering that most of those people in that arena weren't responsible for your loss of eyesight. To illustrate how high that number is, the number of Phillistines killed in that temple is more than
triple the total number of all Israelis who have ever been killed by Palestinian suicide bombers. And despite this, I'm sure that most Christians have no issue believing that Samson will be there in heaven with Jesus and Elijah - while they completely believe that Islamic suicide bomber Ali Mohammed will be in the hottest corner of hell!
09-07-2008, 05:01 PM
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