[Fulldoz]

Mariam(mary) the mother of issa(jesus) (as) was dedicated to the service of bait-ul muqqadas and lived in the cubicle that was assigned for her residence. One day an angel of allah (god) appeared to her in a cubicle and told her that allah (swt) willed that she carry in her womb a great prophet.maryam (mariah) was absolutely frigtned, firstly in seeing an angel in human form and mostly because she was not married .having a child out of wedlock will bring her lots of diffuculty.the angel assured her and told her to have faith and trust in allah for he is the creator of all thing and he has way of and means of creating anything whenever he wills when mary is realized she is indeed pregnant she left the cubicle in the mosque and went to the dessert’s (jesus) was born in the solitude of the desert. The new mother sat under the palm tree with her baby son. He was very beautiful and attractive baby, some had that mary delivered a fatherless baby. And thought they could poke their fingers and ask embracing question to their astonishement, the baby start to utter some word to clarify the position of his pious mother. They were extremely surprised. He advised the people to follow the right path and noble acts. Now these people had convincing proof and the chastity of mary is and story of supernatural event remained in circulation for a long time. The jews considers isa (jesus) to be an illegitimate son of maryam; while christian believes he is the son of god. But allah (god) said that he is neither a father nor a husband .he is the creator and sustainer of all things; he settled the controversy of nabii issa in the holy quran. “verily, for allah the circumstance over the birth of issa are no different for those surrounding the origin of adam. he creatated adam from no parent at all. While jesus had a mother. He just has to will for something to happen. For he is all powerful and magnificent jesus(as) was thirty years when he started to receive divine revelation and began to teach banu israel about the commandment of allah. He showed them great miracles. He made birds out of mad and made them fly. Healed the leapers, gave vision to the blind. Fed thousand with mere loaf of bread, all with the permission of allah. He confirmed the truth of the torah and affirmed the ordinances of halal and haram.most people were to antagonistic for him expecting for few true believers. He had twelve disciples who followed him and assisted him in teachings.banu israel did not approve of his teachings, and collaborated with the roman governor to get rid of him one of jesus companion betrayed him and handed him over to the agents in the government who wanted to arrest him for treason. The roman governor and banu israel believed that they crucified isa (jesus) while some of his follower believed he as taken down from the cross before he died. That controversy still continues... But allah clarifies this in the quran that it’s even a waste to even conjcture on the nature of jesus or what has happened to him after he was arrest by the romans. He was neither crucified nor did he die on the cross., allah (god) withdrew him from amongst his blood thirsty enemies and raised him to the heave

[Dr. Krent]

Fulldoz wrote:

Mariam(mary) the mother of issa(jesus) (as) was dedicated to the service of bait-ul muqqadas and lived in the cubicle that was assigned for her residence. One day an angel of allah (god) appeared to her in a cubicle and told her that allah (swt) willed that she carry in her womb a great prophet.maryam (mariah) was absolutely frigtned, firstly in seeing an angel in human form and mostly because she was not married .


having a child out of wedlock will bring her lots of diffuculty.the angel assured her and told her to have faith and trust in allah for he is the creator of all thing and he has way of and means of creating anything whenever he wills when mary is realized she is indeed pregnant she left the cubicle in the mosque and went to the dessert’s (jesus) was born in the solitude of the desert.


The new mother sat under the palm tree with her baby son. He was very beautiful and attractive baby, some had that mary delivered a fatherless baby. And thought they could poke their fingers and ask embracing question to their astonishement, the baby start to utter some word to clarify the position of his pious mother. They were extremely surprised. He advised the people to follow the right path and noble acts. Now these people had convincing proof and the chastity of mary is and story of supernatural event remained in circulation for a long time.



The jews considers isa (jesus) to be an illegitimate son of maryam; while christian believes he is the son of god. But allah (god) said that he is neither a father nor a husband .he is the creator and sustainer of all things; he settled the controversy of nabii issa in the holy quran. “verily, for allah the circumstance over the birth of issa are no different for those surrounding the origin of adam. he creatated adam from no parent at all. While jesus had a mother. He just has to will for something to happen. For he is all powerful and magnificent jesus(as) was thirty years when he started to receive divine revelation and began to teach banu israel about the commandment of allah. He showed them great miracles. He made birds out of mad and made them fly. Healed the leapers, gave vision to the blind. Fed thousand with mere loaf of bread, all with the permission of allah.


He confirmed the truth of the torah and affirmed the ordinances of halal and haram.most people were to antagonistic for him expecting for few true believers. He had twelve disciples who followed him and assisted him in teachings.banu israel did not approve of his teachings, and collaborated with the roman governor to get rid of him one of jesus companion betrayed him and handed him over to the agents in the government who wanted to arrest him for treason.


The roman governor and banu israel believed that they crucified isa (jesus) while some of his follower believed he as taken down from the cross before he died. That controversy still continues... But allah clarifies this in the quran that it’s even a waste to even conjcture on the nature of jesus or what has happened to him after he was arrest by the romans.

He was neither crucified nor did he die on the cross., allah (god) withdrew him from amongst his blood thirsty enemies and raised him to the heave

[Ndigila2]

Originally Posted by Dr. Krent

He was neither crucified nor did he die on the cross., allah (god) withdrew him from amongst his blood thirsty enemies and raised him to the heave

So who in the world did the Romans crucify?

Also, why was Jesus born of a 'virgin' if he was merely destined to be a prophet?

[Fulldoz]

Thank you kent,although it was not necessary as i was going to do that

[Dr. Krent]

Originally Posted by Fulldoz

Thank you kent,although it was not necessary as i was going to do that

Sometimes you may try to edit your post but the problem persists.

Anyway, what makes you think that your version of Jesus is the correct one?

Muslims do not believe that anyone can die for the sins of others, whereas Jesus died for our sins according to him (Jesus).

The prophet Isaiah, in Isaiah 53, prophesied of someone who was to come and "be cut off" from among his people for "their transgressions". In his prophesy, Isaiah likened that person to a lamb of God. The Torah that you claim support is full of sacrificial lambs. These very lambs are the basic foundation where christians base their salvinic doctrine upon.

Under what process would one declare Muslims' Jesus to be the correct Jesus? This is because the Jesus of the bible and that of the quran speak for different missions.

[Ni_Diambo]

Inheriting Mohammed_4's mantle? Karibu jukwaani.

[Fulldoz]

Originally Posted by Dr. Krent

Fulldoz wrote:

Mariam(mary) the mother of issa(jesus) (as) was dedicated to the service of bait-ul muqqadas and lived in the cubicle that was assigned for her residence. One day an angel of allah (god) appeared to her in a cubicle and told her that allah (swt) willed that she carry in her womb a great prophet.maryam (mariah) was absolutely frigtned, firstly in seeing an angel in human form and mostly because she was not married .


having a child out of wedlock will bring her lots of diffuculty.the angel assured her and told her to have faith and trust in allah for he is the creator of all thing and he has way of and means of creating anything whenever he wills when mary is realized she is indeed pregnant she left the cubicle in the mosque and went to the dessert’s (jesus) was born in the solitude of the desert.


The new mother sat under the palm tree with her baby son. He was very beautiful and attractive baby, some had that mary delivered a fatherless baby. And thought they could poke their fingers and ask embracing question to their astonishement, the baby start to utter some word to clarify the position of his pious mother. They were extremely surprised. He advised the people to follow the right path and noble acts. Now these people had convincing proof and the chastity of mary is and story of supernatural event remained in circulation for a long time.



The jews considers isa (jesus) to be an illegitimate son of maryam; while christian believes he is the son of god. But allah (god) said that he is neither a father nor a husband .he is the creator and sustainer of all things; he settled the controversy of nabii issa in the holy quran. “verily, for allah the circumstance over the birth of issa are no different for those surrounding the origin of adam. he creatated adam from no parent at all. While jesus had a mother. He just has to will for something to happen. For he is all powerful and magnificent jesus(as) was thirty years when he started to receive divine revelation and began to teach banu israel about the commandment of allah. He showed them great miracles. He made birds out of mad and made them fly. Healed the leapers, gave vision to the blind. Fed thousand with mere loaf of bread, all with the permission of allah.


He confirmed the truth of the torah and affirmed the ordinances of halal and haram.most people were to antagonistic for him expecting for few true believers. He had twelve disciples who followed him and assisted him in teachings.banu israel did not approve of his teachings, and collaborated with the roman governor to get rid of him one of jesus companion betrayed him and handed him over to the agents in the government who wanted to arrest him for treason.


The roman governor and banu israel believed that they crucified isa (jesus) while some of his follower believed he as taken down from the cross before he died. That controversy still continues... But allah clarifies this in the quran that it’s even a waste to even conjcture on the nature of jesus or what has happened to him after he was arrest by the romans.

He was neither crucified nor did he die on the cross., allah (god) withdrew him from amongst his blood thirsty enemies and raised him to the heave

Allah gave one of the romans jesus face,and they cought him thinking he was jesus.while God raised jesus himself to heaven , he creatated adam from no parent at all. While jesus had a mother. He just has to will for something to happen. For he is all powerful and

[komboshta]

Originally Posted by Dr. Krent

Sometimes you may try to edit your post but the problem persists.

Anyway, what makes you think that your version of Jesus is the correct one?

Muslims do not believe that anyone can die for the sins of others, whereas Jesus died for our sins according to him (Jesus).

The prophet Isaiah, in Isaiah 53, prophesied of someone who was to come and "be cut off" from among his people for "their transgressions". In his prophesy, Isaiah likened that person to a lamb of God. The Torah that you claim support is full of sacrificial lambs. These very lambs are the basic foundation where christians base their salvinic doctrine upon.

Under what process would one declare Muslims' Jesus to be the correct Jesus? This is because the Jesus of the bible and that of the quran speak for different missions.

I personally like that.........good stuff

[ernestombayo7]

And the big question, why should we trust the koran narrative of jesus which was written 600 years after the life of Jesus,has no eye witness accounts or support,and to top it all up,the authors of the koran never saw,or personally interviewed Jesus or any eye witness to the supposed events.

We should discard evidence given by Jesus own disciples,his brother and various eye witnesses who wrote the new testament in Israel where the events occured,for a document written in Medina Saudi Arabia,600 years later.

[Ndigila2]

Originally Posted by Fulldoz

Allah gave one of the romans jesus face,and they cought him thinking he was jesus.while God raised jesus himself to heaven ,

Is this what Muslims actually believe?

So let me get this straight. God creates Jesus, gives him 12 disciples, he spends his life teaching the 12 disciples the commandments of God, and then he's captured by the Romans, he's about to be crucified, then God raises him to heaven and replaces him with a roman. God essentially deceives the disciples who were entrusted with Jesus commandments. He lets this deception sit for 600 YEARS!! before he finally decides to do something about it (i.e. Prophet Muhammad). But God's deception was so strong that those deceived wouldn't believe in God's final prophet. Even until today, the world's largest religion was as a result of God's deception.

Originally Posted by Fulldoz

he creatated adam from no parent at all. While jesus had a mother. He just has to will for something to happen. For he is all powerful and

Fulldoz, so according to Islam, everyone in the world has a biological father and mother except Adam, Eve and Jesus. With Adam and Eve we can clearly see why they don't have biological parents. They were the first humans created. But with Jesus, (the same Jesus who Christians call "the Son of God") there's no reason? If you claim that someone's mom is a virgin, there has to be a significance to that event.