[Ni_Diambo]

Originally Posted by ernestombayo7

And the big question, why should we trust the koran narrative of jesus which was written 600 years after the life of Jesus,has no eye witness accounts or support,and to top it all up,the authors of the koran never saw,or personally interviewed Jesus or any eye witness to the supposed events.

We should discard evidence given by Jesus own disciples,his brother and various eye witnesses who wrote the new testament in Israel where the events occured,for a document written in Medina Saudi Arabia,600 years later.

This is the big question I have been asking Mohammed_4 and other Muslims. But I have never got an answer. They quote and interpret liberally from the Bible, yet claim it was doctored. On the other hand, the Koran refers in glowing terms to (and even borrows from) the Bible, yet they will not produce even a single copy of this “original” Bible on which the Koran is based. So why should we trust the koranic version of what happened?

It seems to me that the problem is fighting for “the same” God. From their characteristics, Jehovah is not Allah and neither is Yeshua the same person as Issa. I suggest we officially recognize these differences and everyone sticks with their version of truth. Then on “that day” will your position be confirmed or discarded, maybe too late. Talking of ‘that day’, Jesus said “I am the resurrection and the life.” Think about these words. No human being would ever seriously utter such words. That’s where faith comes in. Believe it or reject it - no middle ground.

It's amazing that one would make such heavy proclamations about himself and then be supposed to be subject to Mohammed.

[infinitepyro]

WTF is this??

I thot it was common knowledge that Islam was borne of Jewish culture many years after the life (note: not death) of Yeshua?

By the way, **** the cresent & the cross, life ends on earth. There is no heavem nor jehanum.
Breathe easy, there is a god but he doesn't demand worship. Why should he? Think about it. THINK.

[Muhammad_4]

Originally Posted by Ni_Diambo;

Talking of ‘that day’, Jesus said “I am the resurrection and the life.” Think about these words. No human being would ever seriously utter such words.

The Powerless "God" (Jesus) said: "I can of mine own self do nothing."(John, 5:30)
"God" Was Ignorant of the Time. Jesus said: "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Mark, 13:32)
"God" Was Ignorant of the Season: "And on the morrow, when they were comefrom Bethany, he (Jesus) was hungry: and seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find anything thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was notyet." (Mark, 11:12-13)
So, according to the quotations of the Bible I shared , we find that Jesus did neither share the Nature of God nor is he in every way like God.
He is, therefore, definitely NOT God! The onus to prove that Jesus is God now rests with You all. Either you must prove that Jesus is God, or you must admit that you are polytheists, I mean, a believer in more than one God.

Originally Posted by Ndigila2

So who in the world did the Romans crucify?

Did Romans Crucified Jesus?
I asked you this question before, but let me repeat again:
His legs were not broken by the Roman soldiers: John 19:32-33: "Then came the soldiers, and broke the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they broke not his legs." Can you rely on these soldiers' assertion that Jesus was dead, or did they want to save him out of their belief that he was really innocent?

Originally Posted by Dr Krent

Muslims do not believe that anyone can die for the sins of others, whereas Jesus died for our sins according to him (Jesus).

This is what your Book says:
Ezekiel 18:20: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."
So where did this idea that he died for your sins come from?

Originally Posted by Ndigila 2

Fulldoz, so according to Islam, everyone in the world has a biological father and mother except Adam, Eve and Jesus. With Adam and Eve we can clearly see why they don't have biological parents. They were the first humans created.

Hebrews 7:3. "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the son of God; abideth a priest continually."
Who is he? The answer is in Hebrews 7:1: "Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham ..."
He is more unique than Jesus or Adam. Why is he not considered a son of God or God Himself? !
You answer that please!

[Ni_Diambo]

Mohammed_4, I think you are so programmed. Your training must have said: If you see this verse, follow this link etc. You are regurgitating the same old stuff you've been saying. No added value.

The verse is clear: Jesus did not say "I am a God". As I said, better everyone sticks to 'their truth' then the real truth will be known on that day. Then we will know if Jesus is 'that day itself' as he claims in the Bible, or he was only a signpost pointing to Mohammed.

[Fulldoz]

I think Muhammad-4 answered all your questions,i cant do better than that as he answerd you guys with your own testament,

Shukran Muhammad 4

[teejay]

Originally Posted by Fulldoz

I think Muhammad-4 answered all your questions,i cant do better than that as he answerd you guys with your own testament,

Shukran Muhammad 4

Fulldoz, Muhammed is a repetitive bore. He copies and pastes stuff without understanding the context in which they have been used. He makes fatal error by disregarding THE TIME (when it is said), THE PEOPLE (to whom it is directed), THE PLACE (where it is said). When one fails to factor in these at the time of referring to the bible then he makes as big errors as Muhammad does.

[Muhammad_4]

Originally Posted by ni_diambo

the verse is clear: jesus did not say "i am a god".

Thank you for taking one step ahead towards the truth.
If you are admitting that Jesus did not say that "I am a God" then, it is you who are making him a god!
And I would like to remind you about the warning from Jesus peace be upon him "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men".Mathew 15:9

[infinitepyro]

Originally Posted by Muhammad_4

Thank you for taking one step ahead towards the truth.
If you are admitting that Jesus did not say that "I am a God" then, it is you who are making him a god!
And I would like to remind you about the warning from Jesus peace be upon him "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men".Mathew 15:9

This guy is really starting to piss me off, n am not even Christian.

Muhammed_4, yo prophet Muhammed used to **** a woman twice his age, if that is frowned upon 2day, what about those days? Secondly, all that he taught was basically christianity intergrated with the ways of his tribe. He like Yeshua was not sent by God with a message, he was just a clever peace loving man though a toy boy in the bedroom. You quote the words of men as if they are Yeshua's. He was a man like you, but less stupid and at peace with himself.

[Fulldoz]

Originally Posted by infinitepyro

This guy is really starting to piss me off, n am not even Christian.

Muhammed_4, yo prophet Muhammed used to **** a woman twice his age, if that is frowned upon 2day, what about those days? Secondly, all that he taught was basically christianity intergrated with the ways of his tribe. He like Yeshua was not sent by God with a message, he was just a clever peace loving man though a toy boy in the bedroom. You quote the words of men as if they are Yeshua's. He was a man like you, but less stupid and at peace with himself.

Infinitepyro we dont know what religious u from,but i can assume ur an atheist,religion is very important part of your life.Allah blesses the believers with forgiveness and great rewards..(dont insult)

One thing you must know its better to live worshiping God,whether he is there or not than finding out the last day that he truly exist

[!!!111]

You self-righteous, pompous sanctimonious Muslim twits are getting onto my nerves. Mohammed, if you are unable to engage in a discussion that doesn't rest entirely on trashing the other side while answering NONE of the questions posed to you, you are bound to lose with ignominy.

Answer what you've been asked based on you knowledge of Islam, and don't for one moment presume to know Christianity better than its adherents. And take your flunky Fullydozing with you!!!!


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