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06-16-2008, 07:10 PM
could the original "God" (pre-bible) have been just a metaphor for a set of ideals and ideas?
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06-20-2008, 12:32 AM
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could the original "God" (pre-bible) have been just a metaphor for a set of ideals and ideas?
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why prebible?
maybe the biblical God is precisely that.
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06-20-2008, 12:55 AM
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could the original "God" (pre-bible) have been just a metaphor for a set of ideals and ideas?
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Am a bit confused, whats pre-bible God? And by meaning pre bible God, could you be inferring to other Gods other than Judaeic God?? because the God we profess to is shaped, fashioned and created by one race - the jews.
Are you trying to ask about other gods apart from this Judaeic God that went mainstream, right through to christianity??
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06-20-2008, 03:15 PM
If man can store and recall every single data that enters the brain, other means for information storage and recall wouldn't be necessary.
The above ideal perfection on man's capability to keep in information was true in Adam. After sin, not only was the life span gradually reducing, but also the physical, mental, and spiritual strengths. As a tool to keep His word pure and preserved, God allowed for records about Himself to be penned down.
Before this, the word of mouth from generation to generation was equally a sure and trusted tool for information transmission.
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06-20-2008, 03:24 PM
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Am a bit confused, whats pre-bible God? And by meaning pre bible God, could you be inferring to other Gods other than Judaeic God?? because the God we profess to is shaped, fashioned and created by one race - the jews.
Are you trying to ask about other gods apart from this Judaeic God that went mainstream, right through to christianity??
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Your post has got me wondering, why did the Jewish God get prominence above all other gods? History would rather give prominence to Egyptian gods, or Babylonians gods, or Medo-Persian gods, or Greek gods, or Roman gods, or the Anglo-Saxon gods. But Jewish God(s)?
The Jews were a hated, persecuted, killed, enslaved nationality by the above named world emperors of which I would expect that one of their gods could gain prominence. No wonder I believe in the Judaeic God instead of the Luo gods.
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06-20-2008, 04:51 PM
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Your post has got me wondering, why did the Jewish God get prominence above all other gods? History would rather give prominence to Egyptian gods, or Babylonians gods, or Medo-Persian gods, or Greek gods, or Roman gods, or the Anglo-Saxon gods. But Jewish God(s)?
The Jews were a hated, persecuted, killed, enslaved nationality by the above named world emperors of which I would expect that one of their gods could gain prominence. No wonder I believe in the Judaeic God instead of the Luo gods.
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grip, your jewish god is actually a hodgepodge of all the above. starting with babylonian, medopersian, egyptian, greek, roman, anglosaxon... etc.
reexamine the biblical myths again, keeping in mind the myths from these other religions and u'll see what i mean.
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06-20-2008, 05:05 PM
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grip, your jewish god is actually a hodgepodge of all the above. starting with babylonian, medopersian, egyptian, greek, roman, anglosaxon... etc.
reexamine the biblical myths again, keeping in mind the myths from these other religions and u'll see what i mean.
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Why did He gain prominence? Consider the history of they that formulated Him. The hatred and insignificance of that nation.
Please answer that by analysing the negativity attributed to Him which would rather had made Him disappear in oblivion just as the Luo god did instead of the current fame and popularity.
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06-20-2008, 09:46 PM
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No wonder I believe in the Judaeic God instead of the Luo gods.
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Grip,
for once I'm 100% on the same page with you. The number one reason most people believe in their god is because that is the only god they were ever exposed to. I guarantee you if Jang'os had bigger guns than the Brits, and they had conquered East Africa and imposed on everyone else their customs and beliefs, then (like you say) right now we'd all be worshipping the Jang'o god.
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06-20-2008, 11:09 PM
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Grip,
for once I'm 100% on the same page with you. The number one reason most people believe in their god is because that is the only god they were ever exposed to. I guarantee you if Jang'os had bigger guns than the Brits, and they had conquered East Africa and imposed on everyone else their customs and beliefs, then (like you say) right now we'd all be worshipping the Jang'o god.
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My problem is that even the gods of those who had guns and money aren't prominent today but the God of the Jews. Read how the Romans enslaved them, and how they have been put into captivity by the powerful nations over the years.
Something other than human influence must be responsible for His fame and prominence.
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06-21-2008, 03:36 PM
Your post has got me wondering, why did the Jewish God get prominence above all other gods? ... Something other than human influence must be responsible for His fame and prominence.
The reason why Jehovah is very prominent is you live in a country that was once colonized by Brits, who believe in Jehovah, so we're all about Jenhovah. You watch the western media, and the west is all about Jehovah. Whenever god is referenced in almost all things you do - the movies you watch, the music you listen to, the friends you talk to, the books and papers you read, the politicians you listen to, etc - chances are that the god being referenced will always be Jehovah because of where you were born and raised. Pole to burst your bubble, but it has absolutely nothing to do with Jehovah being real or there being a spiritual influence. It's 100% because of where you live and what you've always been exposed to.
But don't sahau that there are 2 billion peple in China and India who have no idea what the heck the Holy Spirit is, or that the Christian god is called Jehovah. Just like you have no idea what a Sikh has to do to get to heaven, there are millions of Sikhs who have never heard of getting saved or taking communion or whatever. There are a billion plus people in Asia who, when god is referenced, they think of Brahma. Add another billion Muslims who automatically think of Allah. I'm sure they also wonder why in their world, the most prominent god is the god they believe in.
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