[barb]

Originally Posted by ndigila

You didn't answer the question.

When God said in Genesis "Let us make man in our image and in our likeness" who was the "us" referring to?

And don't be afraid to offend anyone here. Just refrain from personal attacks.

Ndigila, all it comes down is the way pple translate what they read, for the us we have a few theories to explain that text, ill mention 2.
we believe that the souls of the righteous existed before G_d created the world refer to 1Chronicles 4:23, 'there they dwelt with the king in his world" that would mean God was refering to them.
Another theory is that God spoke to himself and referred to himself in the plural hence the word 'US'.

[barb]

Isaiah chapter 9 and 52 refers to the suffering servant, who will bring justice to all nations, the suffering servant is the annointed one or the messiah.

[ndigila]

Originally Posted by barb

Ndigila, all it comes down is the way pple translate what they read, for the us we have a few theories to explain that text, ill mention 2.

Barb, you can't reduce it to a bunch of theories/concepts. A true theist believes that God is a someone real and not merely a conceptual acknowledgement. So only one interpretation can be right.

Originally Posted by barb

we believe that the souls of the righteous existed before G_d created the world refer to 1Chronicles 4:23, 'there they dwelt with the king in his world" that would mean God was refering to them.

If that was the case, then the souls of the righteous took part in the creation of human beings. And that clearly isn't the case because according to Genesis, God was the sole creator of humans. There is a serious problem with this interpretation.

Originally Posted by barb

Another theory is that God spoke to himself and referred to himself in the plural hence the word 'US'.

This interpretation only helps the Trinitarian case. It doesn't help yours.

[grip_daddy]

Originally Posted by barb

Isaiah chapter 9 and 52 refers to the suffering servant, who will bring justice to all nations, the suffering servant is the annointed one or the messiah.

That suffering servant is called God, the everlasting Father. Why?

[jasakwa]

3) we dont accept the notion of original sin, humans are born naturally good or naturally bad, the both have the inclination of bad and good in them, but they have free will or moral if you will to choose the difference.


Barb if you claim some people are born naturally bad then aren't you atthe same time contradicting your belief in free will.If a person is born naturally bad does it mean he doesn't have a free will chosing to do bad?