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06-15-2008, 07:40 PM
Jews beliefs....
we believe
G-d exists
G-d is incorporeal
G-d is eternal
All prayers are to be directed to G-d and no other
The words of the prophets are true
Moses prophesies are true, and Moses was the greatest prophet
The written torah( first 5 bks of the bible) and oral torah(teachings now contained in the talmud and other writings) were given to moses
There will be no other torah
G-d knows the thots and deeds of men
G-d will reward the good and punish the wicked
The messiah will come
The dead will be resurrected.
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06-16-2008, 01:45 AM
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Jews beliefs....
we believe
G-d exists
G-d is incorporeal
G-d is eternal
All prayers are to be directed to G-d and no other
The words of the prophets are true
Moses prophesies are true, and Moses was the greatest prophet
The written torah( first 5 bks of the bible) and oral torah(teachings now contained in the talmud and other writings) were given to moses
There will be no other torah
G-d knows the thots and deeds of men
G-d will reward the good and punish the wicked
The messiah will come
The dead will be resurrected.
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And what is Talmud?
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06-16-2008, 02:15 AM
Be honest and tell these Christians what the Talmud says about "their" Jesus:
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b)
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06-16-2008, 06:55 AM
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Be honest and tell these Christians what the Talmud says about "their" Jesus:
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b)
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"Their" Jesus! Really!?!? I thought the Jesus that Christians believe in is the same Jesus that Muslims believe, kumbe they're different people?
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06-16-2008, 12:51 PM
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"Their" Jesus! Really!?!? I thought the Jesus that Christians believe in is the same Jesus that Muslims believe, kumbe they're different people?
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These symbols " " or westerners use to show two fingers from both hands it is an expression that isnt really! learn the symbols first before concluding! shame on you!
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06-16-2008, 01:44 PM
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These symbols " " or westerners use to show two fingers from both hands it is an expression that isnt really! learn the symbols first before concluding! shame on you!
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I'm lost on that. Mind to expound?
The difference between a fool and a wise man is that a wise man is both but a fool is just a fool
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06-16-2008, 04:12 PM
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I'm lost on that. Mind to expound?
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Simply is that: those symbols are used to show that word/words inside of it does not really present intended meaning. One can use two fingers from both hands and blinking twice in talking.(this is common for westerners)
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06-16-2008, 05:04 PM
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Simply is that: those symbols are used to show that word/words inside of it does not really present intended meaning. One can use two fingers from both hands and blinking twice in talking.(this is common for westerners)
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So basically you did not mean that Jesus is evil? Which would mean that Judaism is wrong on those accusations labelled against Jesus?
The difference between a fool and a wise man is that a wise man is both but a fool is just a fool
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06-16-2008, 05:39 PM
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These symbols " " or westerners use to show two fingers from both hands it is an expression that isnt really! learn the symbols first before concluding! shame on you!
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Man, you obviously missed the humor. (Unless my attempt at irony failed).
Anyway, Muhammad, do you affirm the Talmud's statements about Jesus? If you do, then can you explain how the Talmud speaks against the Christian Jesus but not the Muslim Issa, yet somehow they're supposed to be the same person?
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06-16-2008, 08:09 PM
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And what is Talmud?
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the talmud is the book of the jewish faith, a huge collection of doctrines and laws compiled and written by the ancient jewish teachers. A basic book of jewish laws.
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