[YB*]

Methinks whether he is coming tomorrow or after a zillion years, we were not put here to wait for the 2nd coming, thats not our purpose, and thats why we have definite lifespans.

I have said in a different thread before, unless there is no death, our purpose cannot be to wait for God, or live praising him with singing and tambourines and kayambas, those are functions we read about the angels and adopted, wewe omba sunday, monday to sato, endelea na shughuli zako zingine.

Considering billions have passed away before you, wewe unamngoja ndio nini ifanyike?? Will seeing him arrive give unprecedented advantage over the others?? I guess not, so wewe wachana na yeye, unless he was coming over for supper, and he would tell you when.

@ciceraw - mind sambazaing whatever it is your on??

[ciceraw]

Originally Posted by YB*

@ciceraw - mind sambazaing whatever it is your on??

labda ata come kama mwizi wa kura.

[ATLian]

What reasoning can justly be given to the delay of the second coming of Christ?

The most logical one is he hasn't come back because he isn't there! It's all a myth! A big fable!

[Wantai]

Originally Posted by grip_daddy

How is that tied to delay?

Unless thieves wa kwenyu make and keep appointments.

A delay can only be when a time was set. e.g. Grip_daddy had arranged a date with his idiot girlfriend for 7pm at the Wine Bar, the idiot turned up at 1916hrs, meaning she was 16 minutes late.

[Wantai]

Originally Posted by ciceraw

Are you calling Kibaki the Messiah?

lol

[grip_daddy]

Originally Posted by Wantai

Unless thieves wa kwenyu make and keep appointments.

A delay can only be when a time was set. e.g. Grip_daddy had arranged a date with his idiot girlfriend for 7pm at the Wine Bar, the idiot turned up at 1916hrs, meaning she was 16 minutes late.

These days thieves keep time thanks to sophisticated technologies. Anyway, His delay (coming as a thief) can be explained under what premise?

To save many? Then He should delay ad infinitum.

[grip_daddy]

The most logical one is he hasn't come back because he isn't there! It's all a myth! A big fable!

Non existent entities dont delay, but expecting them to appear is not just irrational, but idiotic.

It is recorded that His promise of second coming, resurrection reality, death at the cross, life and times, and birth are historical truths. So your logics dont hold.

[ciceraw]

I saw a full ordained priest telling how the second coming and the rupture were not actually literal events but narratives based on the state of the Christianity during the time when believers were being severely persecuted. The narrative of the rupture and the holy ones finally ascending to heaven was meant to provide hope to the Christians. Some of the things mentioned in Revelations such as the four horsemen, would have been instantly understood in those times because they stood for things that existed at that time.

[ATLian]

Originally Posted by grip_daddy

It is recorded that His promise of second coming, resurrection reality, death at the cross, life and times, and birth are historical truths.

Recorded where? The Bible? Same Bible that says the world is 7,000 years old? Same Bible which tells us that Kipkorir speaks Nandi and Ojwang' speaks Dholuo because some men tried to build a skyscraper to heaven and so god confused them by creating different languages? Same Bible which has details on talking snakes and donkeys? Same Bible which tells us it rained for 40 days and nights, enough water to drown the earth up to a depth where mountains were underwater?

The Bible is definitely not a credible source for historic data.

Have you also ever wondered why only the Bible talks about the resurrection? If it did happen, don't you think there would be numerous sources which verify the Biblical claims?

[grip_daddy]

ATLian the life and times of Jesus Christ is a historical fact from historians (secular and academic history). You can start by reference books such as Encyclopedia Britanica for better and more trusted sources.