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05-16-2008, 06:28 AM
When a man and a woman go to a mall to shop women tend to spend more time and express detailed interest unlike men who will come with a specific motive and shopping plan.
When a man and a woman are talking on phone,the man will tend to be brief and to the specific issues,but the woman will tend to be lengthy and concentrate on details.
I think interracting these and more seemingly different characteristics leads to a better quality of life especially in bringing up kids.A man and a woman combines better.
If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y+Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut.
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05-16-2008, 10:43 AM
ok, but same gender marriage wrong because...?
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05-16-2008, 02:44 PM
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ok, but same gender marriage wrong because...?
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Same thing I'm wondering.
It is undeniable that a child is better off if brought up by a man and a woman. But marriage is not only about kids.
If 2 people love each other, regardless of sex, then they should be allowed to marry by the government. If a man loves 4 women and they all love him back, they should be allowed to marry. If a woman loves 3 men and they all love her back, they should be allowed to marry. The government should have absolutely no say in declaring gay marriages, polygamy or polyandry wrong. I can fully understand if a church forbids gay weddings from taking place in the church, because gayness is explicitly forbidden by the Christian god. But the government should not mix with religion at all, and therefore it should not ban those weddings from taking place.
One of my old bosses is gay, and he has been with his partner since the 70's (how many straight couples can claim that?). If you joined our company, you and your wife would immediately receive all the benefits we receive, from health, education, retirement plans, savings plans, gym and club discounts, etc etc etc. It doesn't matter if you are a 15-times-divorced man and this is your 16th wife! You would get the benefits. But my boss cannot transfer a single one of those benefits to his only partner he has been with in the last 35 years because they are gay and cannot legally get married. How can that be fair? There are so many things we straight people take for granted coz they are automatically granted to us by the government simply because we are straight. These things however are major major issues for gay people, coz they are automatically denied those "rights" only because they are gay. It's almost like being back in those days where rights were denied only because you were black or female!
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05-16-2008, 04:59 PM
its a shame isn't it? that you cannot leave anything to your partner if you die and you are gay and are living anywhere in this world except South Africa...........
but i'm happy for ur boss AT,, 35 years is a long time.....
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05-18-2008, 03:36 AM
How will the gay couple procreate?
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05-19-2008, 01:52 PM
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How will the gay couple procreate?
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Fiery,
this isn't 1808, this is 2008. In case you haven't realized it yet, there are very many ways for you to have a kid. You can give your sperm to a surrogate mother. A woman can get a sperm donor. etc etc etc. I know in 1808 the only way to procreate was through sex with the mother to be, but now science has opened more doors.
Also, procreation isn't the only way to get kids. You know those straight couples that have thousands upon thousands of unplanned children, ama those straight couples that molest and abuse thousands of children, ama those straight couples that fail to provide for thousands of their children, ama those straight couples that give up their kids to foster homes, etc. Gay couples can adopt those kida and save them from their miserable lives!
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05-19-2008, 05:46 PM
the gay marriage thing's so controversial, people will fight it with their lives.
i'm all for civil unions, more realistically achievable.
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05-19-2008, 08:05 PM
in Norway, same sex couples were given the same rights as the regular couples and the divorce rate for regular couple started to dropped.
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05-20-2008, 03:20 AM
This is a topic that is dear to my heart. I for one do not believe that there should be unions of the same sex. I view it as abnormal and repungnant to our core biological makeup.
The general view being pushed around by progay activitists and the catholic church is that we should look at such unions from a "love" angle. They claim that these people love each other and they should not be denied association of whatever form because theirs is built on love like it would be for a man and a woman. They go further and claim that we straight folks only look at it from a perverted sexual angle and not hollistically. I beg to differ.
I would agree with such assertions if the gays also agree not to love each other the way a 'normal' man and a woman would. What I mean by this is that if a man and a woman express "love' by having coitus, gays should find a different way of expressing love and not through coitus. It makes sense. You cannot have it both ways. You see, with these type of arguments propagated by gays, if a father has sexual relationship with his daughter and both of them are mature (assume daughter is over legal age) as a way of expressing their love for each other, then society will have no choice but to view it favourably. Now you see how the gay argument is disjointed to be polite?
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05-20-2008, 05:42 PM
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They go further and claim that we straight folks only look at it from a perverted sexual angle and not hollistically. I beg to differ.
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gays should find a different way of expressing love and not through coitus
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1. i'm sure i don't need to point out the contradictions in those 2 quotes
2. why should they find a different way of expressing their love for each other? furthermore, why do you feel you have ANY SAY IN IT WHATSOEVER?
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