[superdaddy]

A recently converted Moslem woman must she leave her christian husband?
Some muslim people answer "yes"

But this question received a negative response on behalf of Hal Tourabi.
Generalizing this analysis Hal Tourabi arrives at saying "the Moslem woman has the right to marry with a man of "people of the book," i.e. Jews and the Christians. He considers that nothing in the Coran prohibits it and that, since a Moslem can marry with Jewish or a Christian woman, a Moslem woman will be able to also have the right of it...
http://www.sudantribune.com/article...._article=15021

An other Imam, Khalil Mohammed, also defends the marriage of a Moslem woman with non-Moslem man: all the objections raised against, presuppose that the woman must adopt, under the constraint, the faith of her non-Moslem husband, and this is clearly not the case in the Western countries, as Europe or U.S.A..
Nowadays, since Koranic Islam (in opposition to the Islam of the lawyers) must recognize the radical concept that the women are equal men, that women have statutory duties and that freedom to fix conditions before marriage forms part integral of these rights (what I would name a bridal pre-agreement), then a marriage inter-faith can take place, provided that the wife does not have to be obliged to adopt the religion of the conjoint.
These questions are developed in :
Mixed marriage
with many links discusssing that question.

What do you think about?

[al-zalzalah]

Originally Posted by superdaddy

What do you think about?

I think religion should respect a person's right to marry or remain married to the person of their choice. Otherwise, it's no longer faith but coercion.

[grip_daddy]

Originally Posted by al-zalzalah

I think religion should respect a person's right to marry or remain married to the person of their choice. Otherwise, it's no longer faith but coercion.

There is no point of joining a religious system you wouldn't agree to abide by its rules and regulations. You have a choice to remain non religious.

If you think that by joining Catholic will make you a better person, you better not question why you must pray to Mary. If by joining SDA will require that you stop eating pork, you better not question it after joining.

Asking religion to stop controlling your free will means you are not being a member. There is no group, society, club, or organisation you will ever join and expect to follow your absolute free mind (thoughts).

[Muhammad_4]

One of the beuty of Islam is that anyone statement`s can be taken or refused,except the Porphet and of course Allah. we do not blindly follow our Scholars.
Further more,There are no weak points in Islam – praise be to Allaah –Islam is the perfect religion of Allaah, and Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice”[al-An’aam 6:115]
A Muslim women cant marry non Muslim man.Neither a Muslim man can marry a non muslim woman except a Jew or a Christian.
So, If an Islamic ruling seems to a person to be a weak point, he should realize that the fault lies in his way of thinking, because some of the rulings of shareeah that are absolutely wise and just may appear otherwise to some people, either because of their whims and desires, or because it goes against what people are used to in their lives, that goes against shareeah. For example, some think that a man`s being the protector and maintainer of women is a weak point in Islam, because they are used to something which is contrary to that and which also goes against the fitrah (natural inclination of man).

[THE PUNDIT]

Originally Posted by grip_daddy

There is no point of joining a religious system you wouldn't agree to abide by its rules and regulations. You have a choice to remain non religious.

If you think that by joining Catholic will make you a better person, you better not question why you must pray to Mary. If by joining SDA will require that you stop eating pork, you better not question it after joining.

Asking religion to stop controlling your free will means you are not being a member. There is no group, society, club, or organisation you will ever join and expect to follow your absolute free mind (thoughts).

It beats the whole purpose of joining the religion or group if you will oppose the Tenets thereof.............you don't have to join, if at all you feel that you don't agree with it....that's why free thinkers are not in any religion since they want to be controlled by their own thoughts.

Again the Woman before she reverted to Islam should know very well what is expected of her..I don't think one would just join a religion without researching into it.

[al-zalzalah]

Originally Posted by grip_daddy

There is no point of joining a religious system you wouldn't agree to abide by its rules and regulations. You have a choice to remain non religious. If you think that by joining Catholic will make you a better person, you better not question why you must pray to Mary. If by joining SDA will require that you stop eating pork, you better not question it after joining.

Asking religion to stop controlling your free will means you are not being a member. There is no group, society, club, or organisation you will ever join and expect to follow your absolute free mind (thoughts).

grip, religion cannot control a person's free will in such absolute terms. kila mtu hudecide what to obey and what not to obey for their own reasons.

i need to clarify kitu kimoja, there's no such thing as an objective fact called religion which dictates to us what to do. there are millions of people with millions of interpretations of their religion. so as far as following religion goes, i can choose to follow any one of the millions of interpretations and still claim to be following my religion.

there's conscience and there's personal responsibility. that's enough for me.

[Muhammad_4]

Why Muslim man is allowed to marry a Christian or a Jew woman while a Muslim woman can not marry non Muslim man? following are quotation of the words of Scholars:
Primarily Islam teaches Muslims to believe in all the prophets that were sent by Allah to Mankind. Thus a Muslim by default believes in Jesus and Moses. On the other hand, the Christian does not believe in Prophet Muhammad(saw) and the Jew does not believe in Muhammad(saw) nor Jesus as prophets of Allah. This is a very important point because a Muslim man would by default respect the prophet which his non-Muslim wife believes in but a non-Muslim man would not believe or respect the prophet which his wife believes in. After the couple has children, the non-Muslim wife would teach their child to love and respect the prophet she believes in. The Muslim man would certainly not object if his child is being taught to love Jesus or Moses. On the other hand the non-Muslim husband might object when his Muslim wife would teach their child about Islam.
It is highly likely for the man to teach his children the religion he follows. A non-Muslim man with a Muslim wife would then teach their child to be a Christian or Jew. This would mean that the mother would have to be a witness to her child being led onto the wrong path. In such a situation the mother might retaliate by teaching her child the Islamic values and principles. This in turn would lead the relations between the spouses to turn sour. This could also lead to domestic violence.

[superdaddy]

Originally Posted by Muhammad_4

Why Muslim man is allowed to marry a Christian or a Jew woman while a Muslim woman can not marry non Muslim man? following are quotation of the words of Scholars:
.... The Muslim man would certainly not object if his child is being taught to love Jesus or Moses. On the other hand the non-Muslim husband might object when his Muslim wife would teach their child about Islam.
It is highly likely for the man to teach his children the religion he follows. A non-Muslim man with a Muslim wife would then teach their child to be a Christian or Jew. This would mean that the mother would have to be a witness to her child being led onto the wrong path. In such a situation the mother might retaliate by teaching her child the Islamic values and principles. This in turn would lead the relations between the spouses to turn sour. This could also lead to domestic violence.

I don’t think so, specially in countries wher women han the same level of education and social independence than men.
First, the mother is nearer of her young child than her husband, and is more much able to give to him, her religious principles.
Secondly, in these country when children beome more than teen-ager they will get their owm opinion about their philosophy of living, and their parents will have lessand less influence on it.
Third, you think than the wife is always liable to her husband and will adopt religious principles of him and tha is not true in “occidental countries” as Al-Turabi and Khalel Mohamed arguments

[Muhammad_4]

Man by nature tends to be dominant and woman by nature tends to be compromising (in any country). This is a fact which cannot be denied. Some women might claim that they are more dominant in their marriage etc and hence it is not always true that men are dominant. Even if I do agree that there are some women who are more dominant as compared to their husbands, these still are rare cases. Like two in a thousand and thus a minority. Islam is a universal religion and thus needs to secure people at a global level and thus in certain issues its rulings are based on the majority rather than minority.
*If Turabi said what I saw in the newspaper,then I seek refuge from Allah for his (Turabi) evil`s speech, and is up to him to repent to Allah publicly.

[chotadipo]

Muhammad_4,

You can argue till eternity hiding under ambiguity and misinterpretations, but you must realise that Arabs of which Islam originated from were and are still are a paternal society. So when they invented Islam as their releigion, it had to fit with their social norms. Men were regarded as defenders of the community, so mechanisms had to be in place to make sure they remain loyal to the community. Two I'll list below;

1. They were allowed to marry more than one woman because in war like situations as happened in days gone by, the capable men who fight also happen to be in the age group that normally procreates. Since in war men die more than women, this can leave a dysfunctional society.

2. Allowing muslim men to marry people of the book and not vice versa would make sure the men lineage remain firmly muslims so that the society does not turn christian or jewish depending on which side wins the most wars or marries most across tribe.

This is evident even today. A Kikuyu man marrying a Meru woman will have his children defaulted as Kikuyu in national census. This eliminates the complexity of having someone listing tribe as 1/2 kikuyu, 1/4 kamba, 1'4 taita just because the wife comes from a kamba-taita union. Same thing Islam adopted.