Why do Muslims perform Hajj ?(response to Type R)

Muhammad_4 · (#1 (**permalink**))

Type R wrote: By the way, I hear even Hajj, the Muslim pilgrimage, has secular cultural roots.
This is a lie! Hajj, which consists of Muslims circumambulating around the sacred stone (i.e., the Ka'bah) in Makkah, had been performed by many prophets, even by Israelite prophets.
This has been mentioned clearly several times but is usually overlooked by those who read the Bible. For example:
1. Jacob, on his way to Padan aram, saw a vision and built the next morning a pillar of stone which he called Beth EI, i.e. the House of the Lord (Genesis 28:18-19).
2.Years later the same Prophet, Jacob, was ordered by Allah to go to Bethel (Genesis 35:4, 14-15). Jacob removed all of the strange gods prior to going there. Later, Prophet Muhammad also removed all idols around the sacred stone (i.e., Ka'bah in Makkah).
3. Another pillar was built by Jacob and his father-in-law, Laban, (Genesis 31:45-49): "And Jacob took a stone, and set it up for a pillar. And Jacob said unto his brethren: 'Gather stones.' And they took stones, and made a heap; and they did eat there upon the heap. And Laban called it Jegar sahadutha, but Jacob called it Galeed ... and Mizpah, for he said: 'The Lord watch between me and thee ..."
4. Jephthah and Ammon had a war against each other. Jephthah swore to the Lord in Mizpah of Gilead to sacrifice his only daughter if he won. He did win, and burnt his daughter there alive as an offering to the Lord (Judges 11:29-39).
5. Four hundred thousand swordsmen from the eleven tribes of Israel swore before the Lord in Mizpeh to exterminate the tribes of Benjamin (Judges 20 and 21).
6.The children of Israel, under Samuel, swore in Mizpeh to destroy their idols if they won against the Philistines (I Samuel 7).
7. The whole nation of Israel assembled in Mizpeh when Samuel was appointed king of Israel (I Samuel 10).
It is obvious now that there is no Mizpah left in the world, except the oldest one in the Holy City of Makkah built by Abraham and his son Ishmael, from whom later Prophet Muhammad arose. Muslims are really the followers of all prophets. I can tell you other things about Muslims, Islam and Muhammad in the Bible, but why should you know this if you are not looking for the truth?

Type R · (#2 (**permalink**))

Issue under review.

Readings: -

Is the black stone an idol? Is the pilgrimage a pagan rite?

Quote: "This assumption is further aided by the fact that the Ka'bah itself had been a temple housing no less than three hundred and sixty idols."

This requires some study. Will be back later (even though - like all "religious" people - you presumptuously accuse me of "not looking for the truth").

Type R · (#3 (**permalink**))

The title of this thread is misleading. I am in no way a Muslim scholar who can explain why the faithful of a particular religion would carry out a certain rite, whether that rite is original or adopted.

All I am saying is that certain rites were adopted/adapted. The motives belong to the faithful of that religion.

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Muhammad_4 · (#4 (**permalink**))

Why dont you read by yourself those websites then come out with what you have find.I will deal with it. We (Muslims) are people who our books are open!

chotadipo · (#5 (**permalink**))

^^Pilgrimmage and all rites are borrowed from society to society. Islam borrows heavily from catholism, that is indisputable.

Muhammad_4 · (#6 (**permalink**))

What do you mean? please explain.

Type R · (#7 (**permalink**))

To be investigated: -

* the black stone in the desert
* allegations of an idol inside the black stone
* praying to the black stone
* kissing the black rock

Muhammad_4 · (#8 (**permalink**))

Type R ....be my guest.
As for chotadipo! let me make it easy for you: The basic teaching of Islam is Montheism. Believing in Almighty God Alone, not to associate with Him any partners: As Allah say in Quran (translation):Quran 112:1-4. Say : "He is Allah, (the) One. "Allâh-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks). "He begets not, nor was He begotten; "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."
This is the foundation of Islamic faith, so please bring comparison to Catholism.

chotadipo · (#9 (**permalink**))

Muhammad,

The point I'm making is that the above chapter came from his experience with catholism and since he could not reconcile himself with the concept of trnity, chose to change it. He had 30 years of catholism plus 23 years to come up with an alternative book to the Catholic bible scriptues of that time. You cannot argue with that. With today's microsoft word ad google, I can come up with an entirey new bible based on all holy books in existance right now in less than 5years.

Muhammad_4 · (#10 (**permalink**))

I dont get it!