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Default 05-09-2008, 02:04 PM

I am enjoying this post a little too much.

I know Jehovah God is perfect in every way my human mind can fathom. As for HIS purpose of creating me, I know I cannot get that answer from man. Coz if HE created me to worship HIM and I don't even do that right, then why am I still living? I will ask him that when I see HIM. Since that won't be long, I'll just keep on worshipping/praising him until then.
 


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Default 05-09-2008, 07:42 PM

the initial premise is faulty, reggie.
 
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Default 05-09-2008, 10:17 PM

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maybe you can try answering this Chotadipo:
does a perfect being cease to function?
Reggie,

by definition, it should, since any change would render it imperfect. e.g. if the perfect being breathed out, suddenly it has less air than it had in it's lungs a few seconds ago. Perfection cannot be a variable state, so you cannot be perfect with both an empty set of lungs and a full set of lungs. It has to be one or the other. Which means that even by doing something as small as breathing out, the being is no longer perfect!

That's why, by definition, it is impossible for god to have created man because that would have involved a major change of his perfect state.

I think the major problem for god is that when man created him (god), man gave god a long list of attributes that have now been proven to be mutually incompatible. You can't be all knowing and yet claim man has free will. You can't be all powerful and yet evil still exists. You can't be perfect and then you create imperfect things. etc. This is what leads to things being how ChotaDipo put it - This is where GOD screws up his "all knowing" attribute. He is perfect, but according to grip_daddy chooses to create an imperfection, which is man, then forces the imperfection to bide by his perfect nature, and if the imperfection fails, of which will be the case anyway, and he already knows that because he is perfect, he goes ahead and punishes the imperfection or chooses to have 'mercy' on him provided the imperfection after that sings his praises infinitely. Your analogy of the genius falls flat here.
 
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Default consider yourself - 05-10-2008, 01:47 AM

Why do human beings want everything to be described to their satisfaction.What thing that has life has been fully brought forth by a human being. "What do you have that was not given to you" or what does anything,brought by your imagination have to do with existence of a human being,things just seem to exist,whether we want it or not. We don't have a part in creation process.
Seek that which has purpose,brainstorming and mind tickling is what every living thing does.What we do is not specific to us,all human beings seek for God.You have to transcend the aspect of seeking,to knowing God ,describing God,Be God.Being God is common to every man, seeking God is common to every man.All of mankind was created to seek and find God.Seek that Godly aspect which is uniquely you. that which separates you from every other being.and which also brings you together with all other beings.
Whatever mistakes you perceived to have occurred in the creation process are just a segment of YOUR mind,I must stress YOUR,YOU,YOUR individual self,not the whole entire universe.Your perseption is only yours, wether its scientific or not,wether it makes sense or not.
What I know and believe is that there is only one description of life,and its common to every man.
 
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