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Default do we or can we COMPLETELY understand God? - 04-25-2008, 10:50 AM

i can't. you can't. i don't think we'll ever be able to (not on earth).

that being said, is it strange that we run into things that we can't explain satisfactorily?

and isn't what we CAN explain enough to get us by?



p.s i am very aware of how "scapegoat-ish" all this sounds. if u must reply, please be brief.
 
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Default 04-25-2008, 11:04 AM

I believe in continual searching for knowledge ad infinitum. My question would be, what do you limit the term understanding to mean?

Is it inclusive of knowledge, the process employed to search for knowledge, or/and the aspect to be able to give a logical, precise, and acceptable explanation of the acquired knowledge?
 


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Default 04-26-2008, 08:01 PM

No We cannot COMPLETELY understand God for the same reasons that a mosquito cannot debug a complex unix program. We hardly understand ourselves or our partners or children or politicians yet they are only human. How can we expect to completely understand a much more intelligent being than ourselves.

Sometimes I think we should just go ahead and handle stuff that we face here on earth and leave the rest alone.
 
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Default 04-27-2008, 02:50 PM

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i can't. you can't. i don't think we'll ever be able to (not on earth).

that being said, is it strange that we run into things that we can't explain satisfactorily?

and isn't what we CAN explain enough to get us by?



p.s i am very aware of how "scapegoat-ish" all this sounds. if u must reply, please be brief.
It's not scape-goatish at all. I agree with you 100%. The information we have on humanity and the human experience is enough to get us by, mind, body and spirit.
Whereas I am not saying philosophical enquiry should cease, if you get to a place where you realize you indeed don't have the answers, I see no problem with us accepting that we can't answer it and accepting and appreciating that which we do have.
E.g. Yes, I believe we cannot fully understand God -otherwise why so many denominations and sub-sections within the faith-however, it doesn't matter which school of thought or spirituality you come from there are some principles that have always applied e.g. love, loyalty, honesty, integrity etc etc
Perhaps rather than wasting our lives staring into the stars and trying to conquer understanding of a divine being above us in so many ways, we should look around and appreciate all the beauty and wonder that's all around us (I feel rather poetic today)
 
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Default 05-04-2008, 04:49 AM

In many ways, God is a social construct, and society constructs him/her to be complex, there has been gods who have been understood, because those societies did not leave an "all awed" gap.

But modern God/gods can not be understood, because we want to believe that s/he cannot be fathomed, even though everything s/he does is understandable as an action and one can derive an understanding from any individuals action even a God/god.

Thousands of years of somebodys actions and yet you claim you cannot understand, actually nothing new happens with God especially in the last 2000 yrs, personally I would be confident to say I may understand him/her. s/he is not an enigma to me as such
 


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Default It really depends - 05-04-2008, 05:22 AM

Depending on our understanding of basic religion, then we can understand God only from the basic concept understand God but in the dipper understanding of religion, it depends more on how and what we believe in mostly because religions are all different. We will never understand God for we cant understand our own religion.
 
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Perhaps rather than wasting our lives staring into the stars and trying to conquer understanding of a divine being above us in so many ways, we should look around and appreciate all the beauty and wonder that's all around us (I feel rather poetic today)
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Default 05-05-2008, 11:36 AM

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i can't. you can't. i don't think we'll ever be able to (not on earth).

that being said, is it strange that we run into things that we can't explain satisfactorily?

and isn't what we CAN explain enough to get us by?



p.s i am very aware of how "scapegoat-ish" all this sounds. if u must reply, please be brief.
Just because we can't fully understand him doesn't mean we can't fully understand what he has revealed to us. I usually don't try to answer questions of the form, "Why didn't God do ... instead of ...?"
 


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Default 05-09-2008, 02:54 AM

I find the question ver misleading. One purports that he does not understand GOD so he can easily declare that GOD works in mysterious ways. After this, anything can now be explained away as rational because of the irrationality intrinsic in the question itself. Once you declare that you cannot understand something or what that something reveals to you, then that something has no power over your actions.
 
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Default 05-09-2008, 11:08 AM

i think you may have missed the word "completely" when reading the post.
 


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