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Default WITCHCRAFT exists?? - 03-21-2008, 06:46 AM

I have had to surrender myself as willing guinea pig to experiments, which I will now invoke to debunk and clarify certain thoughts and cherished beliefs. With this authority, I’ll move on in a plane clear manner to face both believers and skeptics alike, lettered and unlettered, theologians and men of God as well.

Witchcraft exists? Many are those who will twitch eyebrows when such topics are raised, but this is no time to play Ostrich and try to hide the head under the sand; We’ve all heard such stories and experiences and (or) know a relative, a friend and so on who has suffered, or is trapped in this thing called WITCHCRAFT.

Feel free to accept, reject or remain nonchalant as these crucial bits and pieces stick together. Witchcraft exists???
 


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Default 03-21-2008, 07:09 AM

Witchcraft as a practice exists. What should be argued out is whether the practice is a form of deception, magic trick, mental illusion or real.

As you have said above, one can either accept its reality, be fixed at a middle ground not knowing whether to reject the facts, or just turn the available facts into some kind of psychological disorder resulting from belief in the capability of the illusionated reality of this concept.

Personaly being a believer in the existence of supernatural life form, both good and evil, and with knowledge to the nature and intent of the conflict between these two, do accept not only the existance of witchcraft, but also the power thereof.

I really dont want to go into indepth narration of how the supernaturals interact with human beings as a means to accomplish the end of the said conflict, but would summarily say that the evil life forms use witchcraft as one tool or weapon to achieve their end of the bargain in the conflict.

Minor details and expansion of the subject herein given for discussion will be brought out if the contributions make need for clarifications.
 


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Default uchawi - 03-21-2008, 08:03 AM

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I have had to surrender myself as willing guinea pig to experiments, which I will now invoke to debunk and clarify certain thoughts and cherished beliefs. With this authority, I’ll move on in a plane clear manner to face both believers and skeptics alike, lettered and unlettered, theologians and men of God as well.

Witchcraft exists? Many are those who will twitch eyebrows when such topics are raised, but this is no time to play Ostrich and try to hide the head under the sand; We’ve all heard such stories and experiences and (or) know a relative, a friend and so on who has suffered, or is trapped in this thing called WITCHCRAFT.

Feel free to accept, reject or remain nonchalant as these crucial bits and pieces stick together. Witchcraft exists???
It exists,it is the branch of the devil,and thought to have an organised heirachy with objective of misleading as many as they can from Truth.
 


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Default witchcraft - 03-21-2008, 08:30 AM

Just visit some parts of kisii and rural mombasa,or places with plenty of waswahili and you will agree they exist.

As there is God ,so there is satan,and he has a kingdom of his own.with duties and responsibilities.
 


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Only in Lagos, Nigeria.
 
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Default Nollywood?? - 03-22-2008, 03:14 AM

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Only in Lagos, Nigeria.
I’m not sure what you intended to say or what angle you are looking at the above subject; but I can quickly say Nigerian (Nollywood) movies tend to mix up certain African cultural values with witchcraft and present witchcraft as an intrinsic African value. These movies are raising increasing concerns that they encourage negative stereotypes about Africans. They pitch Christianity in a war against Witchcraft; needless to say who is always the winner.

We all know movies portray what they believe is good for business; sometimes desperately concocting stories. What we are about to discuss is far from this, correct me if I got you wrong.
 


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Default 03-22-2008, 03:26 AM

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What we are about to discuss is far from this, correct me if I got you wrong.
I have a feeling that in the discussions of this subject, all testimonies, experiences, narratives, and opinions on the same should be able to fit in the broad picture.

For example a statement that witchcraft exist only in Nigeria will tell a lack of belief in the concept, and since what the poster has as evidence are the movies she watches, maybe fortified by an aftermath discussion of the movie, such a statement should be subjected to a closer examination. Moreover, likelihood that a poster in the forum could have been a specimen too entirely tested at Nigerian witchcraft laboratories is possible.
 


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Default devil?? - 03-22-2008, 04:14 AM

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It exists,it is the branch of the devil,and thought to have an organised heirachy with objective of misleading as many as they can from Truth.
When some one uses the ward ‘devil’ what picture do you immediately see through your mind’s eye?? Is it that of a horned black humanlike creature??,
Most people will say that you cannot talk about Witchcraft existence without talking about devil. What exactly do you refer to as the ‘devil?’ Please make yourself clear on 'branch of the devil', 'organized hierarchy' and 'Truth' you mentioned above
 


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I’m not sure on what basis you make such assertions as:
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As there is God ,so there is satan,and he has a kingdom of his own.with duties and responsibilities.
I note that there is a strong tendency for pastors and men of God to deepen and exaggerate people’s fears, sometimes systematically inducing and(or) pulling out confessions from imaginary experiences.

You also suggest that Witchcraft existence is more prevalent in rural as opposed to Urban areas:
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Just visit some parts of kisii and rural mombasa,or places with plenty of waswahili and you will agree they exist.
 


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I note that there is a strong tendency for pastors and men of God to deepen and exaggerate people’s fears, sometimes systematically inducing and(or) pulling out confessions from imaginary experiences.
This statement is true especially when considered that the world today has become money minded. Pastors have not been left behind in employing dubious means for get rich quick methodologies, which indeed has called for the necessity to induce and influence individuals who would testify falsely.

This though does not necessarily mean that true testimonies are non existent.
 


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