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03-17-2008, 09:03 AM
600 years ago after the death of Jesus, the world was beyond comprehension it was dredge in unplesantries it was unholy, in the so called present Europe, it was anarchy and paganism which was running supreme, the Roman empire, the Greeks civilization, all this noble empire exhibited intellectual arrogance of the highest order in terms of spiritual awareness. They excel in other fields like astronomy and to some lesser extent in literature.
The coming of Islam or Quran which was beautiful schematised saw the introduction of many things which benefited the current world.
Without Islam, the world today won’t know about Democracy, previously, there was only conquest and colonisation. During Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), while preaching in the holy city of Mecca, there is one verse in the Quran which illustrate the importance of freedom of worship, it tells the us, the Pagan can pray to whoever they believe in and the Muslims to pray to Allah, equally in the second chapter( Al Baqara) it talk of there is “no compulsion in the religion”. When the prophet pass on, his companion decided to elect Caliph Abubakar, against popular belief that the next Caliph would come from the same clan or family of the Prophet, so without Islam we wont know about free and fair election or freedom of worship.
Without Islam, we won’t be having computers! Believe you me, prior to the revelation of Quran, there was no number zero! The western culture started counting from one, with no one thinking of zero as an entity, me and you we know how computer work with zero, or big sum cant be accomplish without zero, Quran started the word “sufur”…which we know the Swahili word of “sufuri”. To this end we can’t under rate the contribution “Algebra” and his many theories in arithmetic
Without Islam nobody could even think of going or flying past the trees, but alas Quran! in the Sura tul Rahman, it gives the human being the freedom and challenge them to go to the outer space, yet western world talk about flying just in the 18th century, so without Islam they will be no NASA.
Islam introduce and contributed massively on diverse topics on modern medicine, talk of microbial, embryology, public health, the fore fathers of Islam like Avicenna (Ibn Sinna), contributed tremendously on modern time treatment to amazement of many scientist of modern times, his book, is regarded to be an eye opener to many people. We Africans should thank God for helping us in this aspect; otherwise we would be dying like desert locusts.
Islam made life easier for entrenching what is now called human rights in the Quran, Quran safe guard the rights of the orphans, made clear the rights of inheritance and equally how to trade and avoid excess or corruption, other monolithic religion, are silent on this matter or ware soo naïve to talk about issue which are grey and new……so we doubt about there authenticity or their founder.
Quran put it so clear in the sura tul Nisai on who to marry and who not marry, none of other religion do that talk clear on the issue of marriage and relations, that is why we see homosexuality in churches and confusion on the fathers and bishop not getting married. So, without Islam, we will still be in the Sodom and Gomorrah era.
Without Islam the modern norms of trade won’t be there, we introduce commerce to the world; the act of profiteering is entrenched in the Quran way before wall mart, or nikei.
Islam is the way of life, without Islam they will be no this generation, that is me and you. Islam was a mercy to human being, so lets not abuse this gift from God.
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03-17-2008, 10:21 AM
Hey, bro. Your ideals are severely flawed... and yes, I can imagine the world without Islam. I'll explain more later, gotta run.
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03-17-2008, 01:32 PM
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Hey, bro. Your ideals are severely flawed... and yes, I can imagine the world without Islam. I'll explain more later, gotta run.
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That is all you can contribute, please be of my assistance by pin pointing the flawed points.
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03-20-2008, 08:13 AM
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600 years ago after the death of Jesus, the world was beyond comprehension it was dredge in unplesantries it was unholy, in the so called present Europe, it was anarchy and paganism which was running supreme, the Roman empire, the Greeks civilization, all this noble empire exhibited intellectual arrogance of the highest order in terms of spiritual awareness. They excel in other fields like astronomy and to some lesser extent in literature.
The coming of Islam or Quran which was beautiful schematised saw the introduction of many things which benefited the current world.
Without Islam, the world today won’t know about Democracy, previously, there was only conquest and colonisation. During Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), while preaching in the holy city of Mecca, there is one verse in the Quran which illustrate the importance of freedom of worship, it tells the us, the Pagan can pray to whoever they believe in and the Muslims to pray to Allah, equally in the second chapter( Al Baqara) it talk of there is “no compulsion in the religion”. When the prophet pass on, his companion decided to elect Caliph Abubakar, against popular belief that the next Caliph would come from the same clan or family of the Prophet, so without Islam we wont know about free and fair election or freedom of worship.
Without Islam, we won’t be having computers! Believe you me, prior to the revelation of Quran, there was no number zero! The western culture started counting from one, with no one thinking of zero as an entity, me and you we know how computer work with zero, or big sum cant be accomplish without zero, Quran started the word “sufur”…which we know the Swahili word of “sufuri”. To this end we can’t under rate the contribution “Algebra” and his many theories in arithmetic
Without Islam nobody could even think of going or flying past the trees, but alas Quran! in the Sura tul Rahman, it gives the human being the freedom and challenge them to go to the outer space, yet western world talk about flying just in the 18th century, so without Islam they will be no NASA.
Islam introduce and contributed massively on diverse topics on modern medicine, talk of microbial, embryology, public health, the fore fathers of Islam like Avicenna (Ibn Sinna), contributed tremendously on modern time treatment to amazement of many scientist of modern times, his book, is regarded to be an eye opener to many people. We Africans should thank God for helping us in this aspect; otherwise we would be dying like desert locusts.
Islam made life easier for entrenching what is now called human rights in the Quran, Quran safe guard the rights of the orphans, made clear the rights of inheritance and equally how to trade and avoid excess or corruption, other monolithic religion, are silent on this matter or ware soo naïve to talk about issue which are grey and new……so we doubt about there authenticity or their founder.
Quran put it so clear in the sura tul Nisai on who to marry and who not marry, none of other religion do that talk clear on the issue of marriage and relations, that is why we see homosexuality in churches and confusion on the fathers and bishop not getting married. So, without Islam, we will still be in the Sodom and Gomorrah era.
Without Islam the modern norms of trade won’t be there, we introduce commerce to the world; the act of profiteering is entrenched in the Quran way before wall mart, or nikei.
Islam is the way of life, without Islam they will be no this generation, that is me and you. Islam was a mercy to human being, so lets not abuse this gift from God.
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so are you for it or against the statement??
you live, you die. then you get JUDGED 
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08-09-2008, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by spairo
- 600 years ago after the death of Jesus, the world was beyond comprehension it was dredge in unplesantries it was unholy, in the so called present Europe, it was anarchy and paganism which was running supreme, the Roman empire, the Greeks civilization, all this noble empire exhibited intellectual arrogance of the highest order in terms of spiritual awareness. They excel in other fields like astronomy and to some lesser extent in literature.
- Without Islam, the world today won’t know about Democracy, previously, there was only conquest and colonisation.
- Without Islam, we won’t be having computers! Believe you me, prior to the revelation of Quran, there was no number zero!
- Without Islam nobody could even think of going or flying past the trees, but alas Quran! in the Sura tul Rahman, it gives the human being the freedom and challenge them to go to the outer space, yet western world talk about flying just in the 18th century, so without Islam they will be no NASA.
- Islam introduce and contributed massively on diverse topics on modern medicine, talk of microbial, embryology, public health, the fore fathers of Islam like Avicenna (Ibn Sinna), contributed tremendously on modern time treatment to amazement of many scientist of modern times, his book, is regarded to be an eye opener to many people.
- Islam made life easier for entrenching what is now called human rights in the Quran, Quran safe guard the rights of the orphans, made clear the rights of inheritance and equally how to trade and avoid excess or corruption, other monolithic religion, are silent on this matter or ware soo naïve to talk about issue which are grey and new……so we doubt about there authenticity or their founder.
- Quran put it so clear in the sura tul Nisai on who to marry and who not marry, none of other religion do that talk clear on the issue of marriage and relations, that is why we see homosexuality in churches and confusion on the fathers and bishop not getting married. So, without Islam, we will still be in the Sodom and Gomorrah era.
- Without Islam the modern norms of trade won’t be there, we introduce commerce to the world; the act of profiteering is entrenched in the Quran way before wall mart, or nikei.
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lol. i don't see why you religious forum people are always on muhammad4's case and you allowed spairo to get away with this several months ago. i mean, seriously!!
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09-05-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by spairo
600 years ago after the death of Jesus, the world was beyond comprehension it was dredge in unplesantries it was unholy, in the so called present Europe, it was anarchy and paganism which was running supreme, the Roman empire, the Greeks civilization, all this noble empire exhibited intellectual arrogance of the highest order in terms of spiritual awareness. They excel in other fields like astronomy and to some lesser extent in literature.
The coming of Islam or Quran which was beautiful schematised saw the introduction of many things which benefited the current world.
Without Islam, the world today won’t know about Democracy, previously, there was only conquest and colonisation. During Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), while preaching in the holy city of Mecca, there is one verse in the Quran which illustrate the importance of freedom of worship, it tells the us, the Pagan can pray to whoever they believe in and the Muslims to pray to Allah, equally in the second chapter( Al Baqara) it talk of there is “no compulsion in the religion”. When the prophet pass on, his companion decided to elect Caliph Abubakar, against popular belief that the next Caliph would come from the same clan or family of the Prophet, so without Islam we wont know about free and fair election or freedom of worship.
Without Islam, we won’t be having computers! Believe you me, prior to the revelation of Quran, there was no number zero! The western culture started counting from one, with no one thinking of zero as an entity, me and you we know how computer work with zero, or big sum cant be accomplish without zero, Quran started the word “sufur”…which we know the Swahili word of “sufuri”. To this end we can’t under rate the contribution “Algebra” and his many theories in arithmetic
Without Islam nobody could even think of going or flying past the trees, but alas Quran! in the Sura tul Rahman, it gives the human being the freedom and challenge them to go to the outer space, yet western world talk about flying just in the 18th century, so without Islam they will be no NASA.
Islam introduce and contributed massively on diverse topics on modern medicine, talk of microbial, embryology, public health, the fore fathers of Islam like Avicenna (Ibn Sinna), contributed tremendously on modern time treatment to amazement of many scientist of modern times, his book, is regarded to be an eye opener to many people. We Africans should thank God for helping us in this aspect; otherwise we would be dying like desert locusts.
Islam made life easier for entrenching what is now called human rights in the Quran, Quran safe guard the rights of the orphans, made clear the rights of inheritance and equally how to trade and avoid excess or corruption, other monolithic religion, are silent on this matter or ware soo naïve to talk about issue which are grey and new……so we doubt about there authenticity or their founder.
Quran put it so clear in the sura tul Nisai on who to marry and who not marry, none of other religion do that talk clear on the issue of marriage and relations, that is why we see homosexuality in churches and confusion on the fathers and bishop not getting married. So, without Islam, we will still be in the Sodom and Gomorrah era.
Without Islam the modern norms of trade won’t be there, we introduce commerce to the world; the act of profiteering is entrenched in the Quran way before wall mart, or nikei.
Islam is the way of life, without Islam they will be no this generation, that is me and you. Islam was a mercy to human being, so lets not abuse this gift from God.
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09-05-2008, 11:15 AM
There'd be no taliban. There'd be peace in the mountains of pakistan. There'd be no wanton killing rampages in the name of Jihad. There'd be no wahhabism, muslim brothers, etc. The world would be better...
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09-05-2008, 07:01 PM
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lol. i don't see why you religious forum people are always on muhammad4's case and you allowed spairo to get away with this several months ago. i mean, seriously!!
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I guess they dismissed it as a major joke. As for me, I didn't know what he was talking about until I read your post. I simply never read any massive pieces of text, including Mohammad_4's.
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09-05-2008, 07:20 PM
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I guess they dismissed it as a major joke. As for me, I didn't know what he was talking about until I read your post. I simply never read any massive pieces of text, including Mohammad_4's.
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akina spairo like exaggerating european anarchy in the middle ages.not any better than the europeans who claim they brought civilization to the world. islamic learning and philosophy borrowed significantly from the greeks, egyptians and others.
anyway maybe i should take a leaf from you. ignore the longer posts.
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