[karau mjanja]

The revealation by cosmo physicists that Jupiter deflects giant allien rocks on collision path with earth convinces me more that God exists and he created the planetary system for his great purpose which include protection of the earth.

They further discovered that saturn is at its right size and position because had it been any larger or further from the sun,its joint gravitational force with jupiter would have destroyed the other planets including earth in our solar system.

Theories may change but not facts,don't be fooled,God exists,

My Redeemer lives.

[karau mjanja]

The modern Laplacian theory states that the central condensing mass has solid dust grains which create a drag. After the centre has slowed down, it heats up and the dust is evaporated. The slowly rotating core becomes the Sun and the planets form from the faster moving cloud around it. This solves the problem of angular momentum distribution in the System. This theory coexists with the modern nebular theory which states that the planets were formed form a dense disk which in turn had formed from material in the gas and dust cloud which had collapsed to give the Sun.

The nebula became turbulent due to tidal action of the Sun, and broke into whirlpools of gas called protoplanets. The protoplanets condensed to form the planets. The disk is dense enough to allow condensation of the planets and thin enough for matter that does not form planets to be blown away by solar wind. A third theory that persists today is that terrestrial planets were formed at temperatures high enough to evaporate lighter substances like hydrogen and helium, but low enough to allow for the condensation of heavier substances like iron and silica to form planetesimals.


The planetesimals accumulated to form protoplanets, the temperature increased and the metals formed a molten core. At the distance of the gaseous planets, methane, water, and ammonia were frozen, preventing the heavier substances from condensing into small solids and led to their different composition and low density.However, these modern theories are by no means the final explanations for the origins of the Solar System. They simply explain the formation of our own System. The discovery of extrasolar planetary systems like 51 Pegasi in 1995 has revealed large planets orbiting the star at distances less than that of Mercury, and has highly elliptical orbits.

History has shown that no answer to the question of the Solar System’s origins can be agreed upon. Each proposed theory cannot fully explain the characteristics of the System; characteristics which include the presence of the Sun at the centre of the Solar System, the orbits of the planets around it, the formation of the terrestrial and gaseous planets, the origin of satellites, and the distribution of angular momentum. The theories seem to build upon each other and incorporate other related ideas, and even modern ideas are a synthesis of what has come before. Perhaps there will only be a definite answer to this fundamental question when further extra solar planetary systems which share common characteristics with ours are discovered. Until then, the process of refining and improving our current theories of the Solar System must continue.

God blessed lives

[Type R]

In other words, "God" exists because there is no other explanation for certain phenomena?

When man didn't understand the weather, "rain" was a loving god's work and "drought" was punishment for sin.

In fact, sometimes, tribes had to implore and beg a god to find out what the sin was that they had committed -- yes, you could be punished severely in ignorance. Come on, even the flawed modern criminal system is required within 48 hours to 2 weeks to inform you of why police have arrested you. Mankind has had strange gods!!!

[fiery_preacher]

The Bible says that the creation itself declares that God exists and cares for us. Nothing exhibits God's care and majesty better than the Earth itself. As a planet, the Earth is the most beautiful planet we have seen to date, with its deep blue oceans, white clouds, and green and brown continents with snow-capped mountain ranges. It is a masterpiece of colors truly demonstrating the handiwork of God.

One can look at the picture and think of it as a geography lesson, with the artificial national boundaries missing. One can look at it and marvel at the abundance of life, even as seen from afar. Even though mankind has altered the surface of the Earth, even our presence on the planet disappears at this scale, with only the glory with which it was created being seen. I see it as the artwork of God on a canvas that should have been dry, barren, and lifeless like our sister planet, Venus. The Earth is a truly marvelous world brought about by a truly marvelous Creator.

[youngben]

Originally Posted by karau mjanja

They further discovered that saturn is at its right size and position because had it been any larger or further from the sun,its joint gravitational force with jupiter would have destroyed the other planets including earth in our solar system.

When you bring cosmology into play you will indeed raise questions that are almost infinite. Think of these

We know that the 9 (10) planets rotate around the sun, in different planes i gather, forming a concentric pattern (circle within a circle, though some patterns are eliptical), if we take the gravitational forces into consideratio, as you have just explained, we note that planetary gravity is real, i mean look at earths tides affected by the moon.

Each planet rotates round the sun at its own speed, meaning in earths years, the earth takes a year and jupiter perhaps will take longer.

Using common sense, what do you think will happen with regards to gavitational forces when one day all planets will be aligned? meaning if the first planet nearest the sun were big enough it would eclipse all the rest (but because the planets are not on the same plane this may not be so).

Am almost sure that if we were to calculate backwards when this happened, that would be the begining of man time, and if we were to project it forward that would be the end of days (just my hypothesis)

[grip_daddy]

The existent of cosmos the way it is can be seen in two important dimensions: 1. The proactive nature of God, and 2. The reactive consequences of how things just are with time. I would like to warn againts giving credit to the second dimension.

Whatever the hypothesis used to explain the genesis of the multiverse, universe, the galaxies, solar systems, and any time, space, and matter reality, such an hypothesis can be written to include considerations for a possibility that such a particular arrangement of forces that contributed to the way all mentioned exist, amounts to the existence of all that is.

In other words, the existence of our cherished life could be explained as dependent as an effect caused by a cause of nature, in the theory of cause effect relationship.

If by any minute probability, let's say of 1 divided by 10 to the power trillion, that existence of the cosmos the way it is probable by such a probability, will negate the arguement that God created the cosmos from nothingless. If anyone gives any amount of probability however small that does not equal zero, then such a person gives credit to the possibility of things existing the way they are without God's intervention.

Christians should not just talk against hypotheses put forth to explain origins, if they duelly cannot prove without any reasonable doubt that such hypotheses' probability does not equal zero.

We as Christians should strive to unearth the total impossibilities for time, space and matter to have originated according to any proposed hypothesis. The hypothesis should be able to contain self contraction, of which if we cannot point out, the originator of such an hypothesis still carries the day, however small we give him the level of confidence.

[ATLian]

Nothing exhibits God's care and majesty better than the Earth itself. As a planet, the Earth is the most beautiful planet we have seen to date,

Preacher,

there are only 9 planets man has seen - those that orbit the solar system. There are billions of galaxies, each with billions of stars in it, with billions of planets circling them. How do you then claim that earth is the most beautiful when we've only seen 9 out of trillions of planets?

[jasakwa]

We know that the 9 (10) planets rotate around the sun, in different planes i gather, forming a concentric pattern (circle within a circle, though some patterns are eliptical),

Young ben we have 8 planets.pluto was demoted to planet like body classification.


if we take the gravitational forces into consideratio, as you have just explained, we note that planetary gravity is real, i mean look at earths tides affected by the moon.

God designed them such that the gravitational system acts in favor of planet earth.Jupiter has been known to diver or in most recent case deflected a large comet.

[jasakwa]

Originally Posted by ATLian

Nothing exhibits God's care and majesty better than the Earth itself. As a planet, the Earth is the most beautiful planet we have seen to date,

Preacher,

there are only 9 planets man has seen - those that orbit the solar system. There are billions of galaxies, each with billions of stars in it, with billions of planets circling them. How do you then claim that earth is the most beautiful when we've only seen 9 out of trillions of planets?

Preacher is right,it is earth's own peculiar qualities in trillion of heavenly bodies that makes most of us believe there is an intelligent all supreme designer somewhere out there watching.

[TeamManager]

Just had to say hi to Atlian