[Papa_Shirandula]

We know that Lucifer is the cause of all our misery and trouble. I was just wondering what if today he decides enaf is enaf I quit and goes down on his knees and asks for forgiveness from the Almighty JAH. Considering the fact that our GOD is so loving and forgiving. Don't you think this plot will end so well. Ama am just too high on this sh**t

[ndigila]

Originally Posted by Papa_Shirandula

We know that Lucifer is the cause of all our misery and trouble. I was just wondering what if today he decides enaf is enaf I quit and goes down on his knees and asks for forgiveness from the Almighty JAH. Considering the fact that our GOD is so loving and forgiving. Don't you think this plot will end so well. Ama am just too high on this sh**t

It's a theoretical possibility.

[grip_daddy]

If he repented then, before he was thrown out of heaven, he could have been forgiven. But him repenting now equals to the possibility of asking if God dies!

There are impossibilities that are outright.

[lavidanor]

I believe it is not possible either because the vocabulary of "repentance" doesn't exist for him or "forgiveness" is not available for him, or both. The bottom line is that nobody knows.

But that makes me think of something else: Why don't human beings for whom "repentance" is household name and "forgiveness" is abundantly available take the advantage and reconcile with God?

[Valhalla]

Originally Posted by lavidanor

I believe it is not possible either because the vocabulary of "repentance" doesn't exist for him or "forgiveness" is not available for him, or both. The bottom line is that nobody knows.

But that makes me think of something else: Why don't human beings for whom "repentance" is household name and "forgiveness" is abundantly available take the advantage and reconcile with God?

Good thoughts guys. I would have to quote you all but I can only do one guy. So I chose the one before me.

For me the issue of Lucifer repenting is not even, at best, a theoretical possibility. It is one of those things that we can have utter certainty about-he aint doing it any time! Ever! I would, on a theoretical level, agree with the previous thought that maybe his repentance before being cast from heaven would have saved him and his posse. But maybe his banishment was instantaneous and there was no room for him to repent. How can an angel, the highest of them all, try play God like that-trying not only to BE LIKE GOD but to BE GOD. Shetani attempted this after being with God and seeing Him in all His glory? Even him (Lucifer) had some nerve to pull that! As humans, we know very little of God's super-awesomeness. That's why, I think, we may at times not be super-serious with our relationship with Him.

Thats my take.

[Waithera Cherono Akoth]

Religion doesnt give us many options cz all we have to do is believe in things that we cant see thru faith and we have the Bible which we are to follow so as believers we kno that God keeps his word and wot he has sayd is wot will hapen..,the rest we live it to him..,if we await judgement..,then let it be...,

[ATLian]

Originally Posted by grip_daddy

If he repented then, before he was thrown out of heaven, he could have been forgiven. But him repenting now equals to the possibility of asking if God dies!

Grip,

please explain this again, I didn't quite follow you. Thx.

[ATLian]

Originally Posted by Papa_Shirandula

We know that Lucifer is the cause of all our misery and trouble. I was just wondering what if today he decides enaf is enaf I quit and goes down on his knees and asks for forgiveness from the Almighty JAH. Considering the fact that our GOD is so loving and forgiving. Don't you think this plot will end so well. Ama am just too high on this sh**t

I asked this a while back, and someone quoted some Biblical passages showing that Satan is unforgiveable. I can't recall under what topic it was being discussed, but if you do a search, you may get the answers.

[ATLian]

Originally Posted by lavidanor

But that makes me think of something else: Why don't human beings for whom "repentance" is household name and "forgiveness" is abundantly available take the advantage and reconcile with God?

Because:

- they don't believe that god exists

- the notion of forgiveness for any sin you do, no matter how big, by simply asking for forgiveness is just not rational or realistic. It's very hard to convince a father that the man who just raped and killed his 2 year old daughter will go to heaven if he only tells god "I'm sorry".

- that's not all god requires from you

- they don't believe that what they are doing is a sin that needs repentance. I ate shrimp for dinner last week, and that is a sin according to god which would send me to hell to burn forever. I (and most Christians who eat shrimp) just don't believe that I need to apologize to god for eating shrimp, and ask for his almighty forgiveness.

- etc etc etc

[lavidanor]

ATLian, about eating shrimps, you may consider the perfection of things in the New Testament: Look at the following:
Mark 7:17-19;
Acts 10:9-16;
1 Timothy 4:1-5.

So, all manner of foods have been sanctified by the Blood of Christ, can now be received with thanksgiving. You don't therefore need to repent for eating shrimps.