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Default End times - 02-26-2008, 12:36 AM

Young ben ,i believe the bible is right about how the world will end.
The battle ben is about hearts and minds,the church on one side trying to win hearts to christ and the devil on the other side using philosophy,aethism,secularism to lure the people on his side.i will list for you the sequence of events leading to the end time.

1.Rapture - The church will be taken awayn from the world.Jesus will lead the operation to snatch away all believers.God removed noah and 7 others into the ark before floods struck,same was with Lot before fire rained on sodom.

2.The devil will sent his anti-christ in human form to ascend to world leadership.This anti-christ will lead a generation of anti-God people,they will kill and persecute christian converts.

3.The great tribulation - The worst period in the history of the world since creation.A period with famine,metereos hitting the earth,diseases afflicting many,great volcanic and seismological activities,shifts in the cosmos allignments.

4.The second coming of Jesus.
5.The millenium
6.Final Judgement
7.New heaven and New earth
 


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Young ben ,i believe the bible is right about how the world will end.
The battle ben is about hearts and minds,the church on one side trying to win hearts to christ and the devil on the other side using philosophy,aethism,secularism to lure the people on his side.i will list for you the sequence of events leading to the end time.

1.Rapture - The church will be taken awayn from the world.Jesus will lead the operation to snatch away all believers.God removed noah and 7 others into the ark before floods struck,same was with Lot before fire rained on sodom.

2.The devil will sent his anti-christ in human form to ascend to world leadership.This anti-christ will lead a generation of anti-God people,they will kill and persecute christian converts.

3.The great tribulation - The worst period in the history of the world since creation.A period with famine,metereos hitting the earth,diseases afflicting many,great volcanic and seismological activities,shifts in the cosmos allignments.

4.The second coming of Jesus.
5.The millenium
6.Final Judgement
7.New heaven and New earth
You've separated the rapture from the second coming, that's not Biblical.
 
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basically the war with the devil wasnt finished as Eloim alias jehova as u wana call him had to vacaate earth as soon as possible before intergalactic forces were released to counter this infiltration of the earth thus he didnt kill satan and his forces as they hid here as their own pplanet that was called the morning star was destroyed as he went against God's principles thus was banned from there with the war that ensued thus here we are an innocent planet yet coz of cosmic laws they cannot intervene in our mundane affairs but now they are on the brink of coming back to finish their wars and finish satan for gd as the eveident UFO sightings is a sign plus the secret nasa flights past the moon with man inside the rockets hasnt been successful as there is an etheric barrier erected to prevent any one from leaving this galaxy only empty pr robot manned flights can go past the moon thus the agony of NASA as aliens are already here with us and live amonst us the reptilians and if u remember diana her self said that the monarch of Uk arent pple but are reptiles, as they were soo developed to function as humans yet they are reptiles in nature and can shape shift, thus they suck pples blood, eat human flesh and more nasty things that u can think of yet we all the day glorify them, and they have invented the bible to mask the truth as they wana be worhshiped as God yet the real God of all galaxies doesnt want u to pray or kneel for him every now and then.
I have the books soo whoever is ready to learn the bitter truth ur more than welcome to send me your email to my inbox and i shall mail u the books otehrwise the pope is a farce and the religions as we are at war with the mighty and we are spitirual beyond destruction only our bodies die but the spirit soldiers on as if you lived ur life sinfully then u sahll be born again in ano person and grow again till the day ur higher self thats pure will connect witht he sinful self thats us that was cast away from the other self to prevent further damage to the heavens as u wana call it but its ano galaxy with our human friends who live in our forms...sad but true religion is a farce, being used to whip up emotions but what i dont belive in is the crap yet we see paupers every day yet st peters basilica in rome is awash with gold and what not luxuries !!!
soo its either u believe the stuff or follow the official history that every one accepts as that way its easier to escapre critism and not be labelled mad or condemned to mental shacks, but i wont force anyone to accept my views as things that happen in this world are beyond science and religion grasp u know it and we know it soo let stop pretending
 
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Default 02-26-2008, 11:27 AM

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Is that scientology or Raelianism?

And why was the book of Enoch hidden by the church?
The liberation of the human mind has never been furthered by dunderheads; it has
been furthered by gay fellows who heaved dead cats into sanctuaries and then went
roistering down the highways of the world, proving to all men that doubt, after all,
was safe¾that the god in the sanctuary was finite in his power and hence a fraud.
One horse-laugh is worth ten thousand syllogisms. It is not only more effective; it is
also vastly more intelligent.
H.L. Mencken
The search for the conspiratorial origins of the name of this book’s author takes a
circuitous route. “Acharya” means “teacher,” but the title conjures an image of a little
old man in India. Mahatma Gandhi, for instance, bestowed the title onto his spiritual
heir, Acharya Vinoba Bhave, who began the Bhoodan land movement in India in the
early 1950s. More strictly, the word means “preceptor,” the head-master or principal
of a school. A student could further fine-tune that definition by discovering, only in
some dictionaries, that “preceptory” includes reference to the Knights Templar, an
order ostensibly founded in 1119 CE to protect Holy Land pilgrims during the Second
Crusade until it was banned and went underground two centuries later. Today,
Freemasonry continues to claim descent from this medieval brotherhood.
None of this rumination suggests that Acharya S claims title as a preceptor or
direct kinship to the Freemasons, although she has helped re-popularize an essay by
Thomas Paine regarding Masonic sun-worship. Acharya’s preceptory resides
in cyberspace, on the web at Truth Be Known Home, on her discussion list,
through her posts in such e-places as konformist.com and Steamshovel Press,
of which I am the publisher, and through her non-profit Institute for Historical
Accuracy. Acharya S is also not a kindly little old guru. Her writing reflects a wicked
wit and the intelligence of a person who does not suffer fools gladly. Under the
flashing head of Bob Dobbs on her website and the words “God is BORG” are
essays/rants on Earth and the cosmos, the existence or nonexistence of “God,” the
spiritual paucity of organized religion, as well as conspiracy and UFO/alien realities.
“The believers/theists feel my views are intolerant,” she writes, “while the
nonbelievers/atheists object to the mysticism and perceive me as creating new
beliefs . . . While I do not wish to live in a world where everyone is deluded by blind
belief, I also do not want to totally dismiss all imagination or color.”
A certain contemporary, straight-talking style distinguishes the work of Acharya
S, which is surprising in that her scholarship sets out to recover ancient
understanding from the relatively modern corruption of Judeo-Christian culture.
Her style and perception are reminiscent of the late novelist and satirist William S.
Burroughs, and she no doubt agrees with this assessment of his: “Perhaps the most
basic concept in my writing is a belief in the magical universe, a universe of many
gods often in conflict. The paradox of an all-powerful, all-seeing God who
nonetheless allows suffering, evil and death, does not arise.” Indeed, Acharya S likes
to say, “There is no single giant male god in charge. There are six billion little gods all
jockeying for position.”

as i said before am ready to share with anyone the books 'christ conspiracy', the world greatest secrets, and the book of enoch various plus the revelation insights as the church is a scam yet we cant open our minds and follow our own instincts for example if i were to ask u a simple Q, why did that wizard from kwale die or go semi dead then wake up once in his shrine when the police arrested him? yet we all pursecute our knowledge in favour of whites and their god forsaken churches to be superiour !!! it hurts, the wizards talents are amazing as we both have the same powers we can activate them, fly with our etheric bodies forget ur body as its just a shell to get you by in life till you die thats when life begins soo the sooner you can have your out side body travel or astral travel teh better as we all have personal guides in us who advices us on what to do and what not plsu the ability to read the future, talk to our dead loved ones and much more and this is what is beign suppressed as no one can limit ur horizons but u and ur false beliefs in the official truths
 
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as i said before am ready to share with anyone the books 'christ conspiracy', the world greatest secrets, and the book of enoch various plus the revelation insights as the church is a scam yet we cant open our minds and follow our own instincts
Why is it that whenever the church rejected some books labeling them non-canonical or even heretical, its automatically assumed that the church was trying to hide something? Why can't it be reasoned that they may actually be preserving the teachings that were handed down to them by the apostles?
 
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Default diff btw rapture and his second coming - 02-27-2008, 04:01 AM

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you've separated the rapture from the second coming, that's not biblical.
christ will be involved in the rapture of the church,but he will only meet his people in the sky,it is different from his second coming in that in the latter he will be coming to set up his rule,and will dwell on earth.in the case of rapture its about himleading his angels in snatching christians from the face of the earth,an event expected to happen in the sky. The rapture is described in 1 thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 corinthians 15:50-54. Believers who have died will have their bodies resurrected, and along with believers who are still living will meet the lord in the air. This will all occur in a moment, in a twinkling of an eye. The second coming is when jesus returns to defeat the antichrist, destroy evil, and establish his millennial kingdom. The second coming is described in revelation 19:11-16. I hope am clear now ndigila.
 


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christ will be involved in the rapture of the church,but he will only meet his people in the sky,it is different from his second coming in that in the latter he will be coming to set up his rule,and will dwell on earth.in the case of rapture its about himleading his angels in snatching christians from the face of the earth,an event expected to happen in the sky. The rapture is described in 1 thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 corinthians 15:50-54. Believers who have died will have their bodies resurrected, and along with believers who are still living will meet the lord in the air. This will all occur in a moment, in a twinkling of an eye. The second coming is when jesus returns to defeat the antichrist, destroy evil, and establish his millennial kingdom. The second coming is described in revelation 19:11-16. I hope am clear now ndigila.
Still, there's no evidence of the rapture and the second coming being separate events. FYI, the rapture appeared in the early church as Chiliasm and was condemned as heresy.
 
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This is a topic the very rich and atheists try to avoid.We all have to gapple with the thoughts once in a while,we hear of global warming alarms,we hear of drifting giant comets...and wonder how safe our planet is?

Now what is your personal opinion about how our world will end?
I don't think the end of the world matters. We must live as though it can happen any second i.e. live the best lives we possibly can rather than fixate on how we are going to die or how things are going to end. To live in constant view of the end of the world takes away from the gift of life that you and I currently share.

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Still, there's no evidence of the rapture and the second coming being separate events. FYI, the rapture appeared in the early church as Chiliasm and was condemned as heresy.
Where does the great tribulation period decoded by prophet Daniel as a 7 years period fit in?The essence of the rapture is to save christians from the impending 7 years period of doom and gloom.The scriptures talks about it clearly in 1 corinthians 15
 


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Where does the great tribulation period decoded by prophet Daniel as a 7 years period fit in?The essence of the rapture is to save christians from the impending 7 years period of doom and gloom.The scriptures talks about it clearly in 1 corinthians 15
Actually it doesn't. There's thousands, possibly millions, of different interpretations of Daniel's 70 weeks story. Nonetheless, Christ talked about his followers being hated by the world, being persecuted. Paul took it even further and "boasted" about his persecutions. There is a clear theme in the New Testament that all Christians will be persecuted (2 Timothy 3:12). So why would the Bible speak of the greatest persecution that the world has ever seen if the Christians aren't gonna be there?
 
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