The Eternality and Preexistence of Jesus Christ- Jesus Christ is Eternal

KENNETH MATIBA · (#1 (**permalink**))

The Eternality of Jesus Christ means that Christ is eternal- He does not have a beginning or an end. It proves His deity because only God is eternal. Jesus Christ existed in times past, He exists now, and He will always exist in the future. That means that Jesus Christ was pre-existent. In this section we will take a look at the Preexistence of Christ. The definition of pre-existence means that He existed before His birth. In this section we will also take a look at

The evidence for Christ's preexistence:
A. His pre-existence was proved by the Old Testament (Isaiah 9:6)
B. His pre-existence was proved by His titles.
C. His pre-existence was proved by Christophanies (the appearance of the
Angel of The Lord who was Christ),
(Exodus 3:2,4; Genesis 22:11)
D. His pre-existence was proved by the New Testament (John 8:58)
E. His pre-existence was proved by His Works (Colossians 1:16)

Testify of Me by Kraig J Rice

Atabong · (#2 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by KENNETH MATIBA

The Eternality of Jesus Christ means that Christ is eternal- He does not have a beginning or an end. It proves His deity because only God is eternal. Jesus Christ existed in times past, He exists now, and He will always exist in the future. That means that Jesus Christ was pre-existent. In this section we will take a look at the Preexistence of Christ. The definition of pre-existence means that He existed before His birth. In this section we will also take a look at

The evidence for Christ's preexistence:
A. His pre-existence was proved by the Old Testament (Isaiah 9:6)
B. His pre-existence was proved by His titles.
C. His pre-existence was proved by Christophanies (the appearance of the
Angel of The Lord who was Christ),
(Exodus 3:2,4; Genesis 22:11)
D. His pre-existence was proved by the New Testament (John 8:58)
E. His pre-existence was proved by His Works (Colossians 1:16)

Testify of Me by Kraig J Rice

Religion is a dream. Dreams are nothing more than a reflection of our fears and desires. The time is coming when Africans will rise and ask the world to elect a black pope and write stories of a black Jesus and black Mohammed.

reggie_woic · (#3 (**permalink**))

why exactly do we need a black pope, jesus or mohammed?

Muafrica · (#4 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Atabong

Religion is a dream. Dreams are nothing more than a reflection of our fears and desires. The time is coming when Africans will rise and ask the world to elect a black pope and write stories of a black Jesus and black Mohammed.

Brilliant ....I could not say.... any better...

Atabong · (#5 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by reggie_woic

why exactly do we need a black pope, jesus or mohammed?

Because people are mistaking wailing for laughter and laughter for wailing.

Muhammad_4 · (#6 (**permalink**))

I do not think that Matiba knows his Bible very well! if he does, how could he claim the preexistence of Jesus while the Bible says that:Isaiah 45:18: "For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else."
From Isaiah 45:18 we can conclude that God alone was the Creator and that no one else, not even Jesus, participated in the creation.

reggie_woic · (#7 (**permalink**))

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I am the Lord; and there is none else.

none else who is lord.
and no one is claiming that Jesus participated in creation.

Muhammad_4 · (#8 (**permalink**))

reggie wrote: "none else who is lord.and no one is claiming that Jesus participated in creation".
Then you have made me to understand that, you do not believe that Jesus is god. And I think that we have settle the matter. All praise be to Allah.

reggie_woic · (#9 (**permalink**))

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Then you have made me to understand that, you do not believe that Jesus is god.

here, i'll break it down for you:
no one else is God => there is only one God. Jesus IS God =>Jesus is not another God.
was Jesus there during creation? i'd say yes. why? coz he's God. but we don't say that Jesus created the world - we say that God did. just like we say the "disciples were filled with the holy spirit", not "the disciples were filled with Jesus". whats wrong with saying the former? nothing - whatever works for you.

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And I think that we have settle the matter. All praise be to Allah.

no, we haven't settled anything but hey, praise be to Allah anyway.

grip_daddy · (#10 (**permalink**))

When you will try to understand that Allah does not have to exist in SINGULARITY, you will know why He is the ONLY one God. Him (Allah) exist in TRINITY as opposed to natural singularities of items we are familiar with in the naturalistic world.

This is my best example; that somehow a single photon behaves as dual or multiple entities before any interference by an observer. It can sometimes be seen to travel two paths simultaneously, or undergo multiple spins in all probable angular directions. Now that is a hard nut to crack on the part of quantum physicists the same way TRINITY is a hard nut for Christians.