[reggie_woic]

i didn't know trinity existed in the muslim faith...

[Muhammad_4]

Jesus was tempted by Satan for forty days (Luke 4:1-13), but in James 1:13 it is said: "... for God cannot be tempted with evil ..." How can Jesus be God, then?
Trinity does not exist in our Islamic faith.To grip, If three persons are sitting or eating together, does it mean that they form one person? No. The formulation of the Trinity by Athanasius, an Egyptian deacon from Alexandria, was accepted by the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD more than three centuries after Jesus had left. No doubt Roman paganism had an influence on this doctrine of a triune god. The Sabbath was shifted to Sunday and December 25, the birthday of their sun god Mithra, was introduced as Jesus' birthday!

[reggie_woic]

Jesus was tempted by Satan for forty days (Luke 4:1-13), but in James 1:13 it is said: "... for God cannot be tempted with evil ..." How can Jesus be God, then?

Jesus didn't fall for those, so u can't say he was tempted. you know this.

[Muhammad_4]

Words were not mine, but from your own Bible, unless you disassociate from it today! Luke 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil....."
More Scriptures that Jesus IS NOT GOD: I Timothy 2:5: "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Look at the expression "the man Christ Jesus."
Jesus slept while God never sleeps: Psalms 121:4: "Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep."

[reggie_woic]

Jesus came down in the form of a man. not a woman, not a cat, not a plant.
a man.
how can God be both a man and God - i can't say. but if there's anyone who can pull that off, its God.

[grip_daddy]

Originally Posted by reggie_woic

Jesus came down in the form of a man. not a woman, not a cat, not a plant.
a man.
how can God be both a man and God - i can't say. but if there's anyone who can pull that off, its God.

Because there is nothing impossible with God. God can imitate the body of a man as in the case of Genesis 18, and also physically transform Himself to that body forever (Jesus is having a body of a man permanently. After resurrection we will be like Him). Now if you reason that God is not limited by natural laws, you will understand this.

[jasakwa]

Originally Posted by Muhammad_4

Jesus was tempted by Satan for forty days (Luke 4:1-13), but in James 1:13 it is said: "... for God cannot be tempted with evil ..." How can Jesus be God, then?

The whole fullness of God dwelt in him making him like God.If you your were to be sent by a king for a mission and given full king honor and powers to do your mission then you will be considered a king and if your relationship with the king who sent you is so rich in trust and faithfulness then the more you tend towards being same simply because you will be him to your subjects.

and refering to the scriptures you have quoted,when James said God cannot be tempted with evil it confirmed what Jesus went through in the wilderness.The temptation by the evil one did not succeed,so he was never tempted to do those evil.e.g if you went to the beach and a half naked woman tempts you by asking you to visit her tent at night,if you even debate in your mind about going you have already been tempted,but if you tell her point blank that it is written though shall not fornicate then you have not been tempted.Likewise thats what the verse meant.

[Muhammad_4]

If you believe that jesus is god, then you have to believe these things too(not offence, for the purpose of sharing information only): "god" was humiliated: "and the men that held jesus mocked him, and smote him. And when they had blindfolded him, they struck him on the face." (luke, 22:63-64). "then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands." (matthew, 26:67) the dying "god": "and jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost." (mark, 15:37) "god" was panic-stricken: "after these things jesus walked in galilee: for he would not walk in jewry, because the jews sought to kill him." (john, 7:1) "god" fled in disguise: "then took they up stones to cast at him: but jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by." (john, 8:59) if anyone feel to be offended by those statements, then i am sorry the intention is not to offend anyone as i stated early.

[grip_daddy]

Muhame_4

Yes God underwent all those humiliations, torture and finally died because of my sins, your sins, and everyone's sins in order to give us the lost everlasting life. He had to die so that we can live.

"Christ was treated as we deserve, that we might be treated as He deserves. He was condemned for our sins, in which He had no share, that we may be justified by His righteousness, in which we had no share. He suffered the death which was ours, that we might receive the life which was His" Ellen White, Desire of Ages, Chapter One.

[Muhammad_4]

To grip_daddy,
It is with a great regret that you have quoted a passage from Ellen Whites book as your proof for the Doctrine of Original Sin, putting aside the book which you are claim that it is from the Almighty God. Sadly, this gives picture that you are disatissified with the Bible!
However, the Doctrine of Atonement, was accepted by the Church three or four centuries after Jesus left the earth. It contradicts the Bible, as the following passages show: Deuteronomy 24:16: "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
Jeremiah 31:30: "But every one shall die for his own iniquity ..."
Ezekiel 18:20: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."