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Default 11-25-2007, 04:29 AM

We assert that Islam is not a religion of peace but is founded on war, violence, terrorism, hate and injustice.

We affirm that Islam is a false religion.

We conclude that Islam is responsible for rampant corruption, widespread misrule, implausible tyranny, mindless terrorism, unrelenting violence and pervasive social injustice in the Muslim world
We challenge Muslims to debate on these assertions
 
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Default 11-25-2007, 10:54 AM

Kenneth, do all Christian denominations worship the same God?
 
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Default 11-25-2007, 08:40 PM

christian = follower of christ - worshipper of God.

Kenneth: just stop, ok? what you're saying is blasphemous and just BS...if that isn't enough for you to stop, how about the fact that NO ONE IS INTERESTED.
 


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Default Shameless Matiba - 11-26-2007, 01:12 AM

I think you need to take time to read the history of the church to educate your ignorant mind.

The church has no clean history to be proud of. It has committed the worst and terrible crimes including the displacement of Jews, slavery and colonisation of Africans. The bible and the gun have always been the two hands of the same man. Look at the Lord Resistance Army in Uganda..killing in the name of the Lord. Do you remember the Irish Republican Army?

My own church bought and sold slaves from Ghana and used them in plantations in Jamaica..the profits were used to bring evangelists to the rest of us who were left in Africa!

Why am I asking this of you? Your type of person, I mean "fundamentalist", might never get time to read rational stuff...

I cannot defend Islam in any way, but give them respect for what they are.
Why don't you use your time to put your own house in order instead of poking your stinking rose all over.
 

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Default faiths - 11-26-2007, 01:18 AM

Keneth i tend to agree with your points ,but your choice of words may put off instead of inviting a would be convert.Muslims as well as Judaism faiths live under laws given by their doctrines.Christians on the other hand were freed from the burden of laws by christ,so that what guides us is the spirit of God,given by Jesus Christ who by his death,burial and resurrection provided grace to all who believe.
 


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Malaysian Minister Defends Caning
A Malaysian minister defended the country’s use of corporal punishment on Wednesday amid protests from lawyers after a video clip surfaced on the Internet showing a prisoner being caned until he started bleeding.

The Bar Council, which represents 8,000 lawyers in Malaysia, earlier this year called for corporal punishment to be abolished.

The council stepped up its call after highlighting a “gory” video clip on its Web site over the weekend of a prisoner, whose face was not shown, being caned repeatedly even after his skin split in a bloody mess.

The six-minute clip, titled “Malaysian Caning Judicial Corporal Punishment,” was posted on an international video sharing Web site,

“We are against the death penalty and corporal punishment. It’s against all international human rights norms and the various conventions on torture,” council president Ambiga Sreenevasan told The Associated Press. “It’s inhumane and degrading.”

The opposition Democratic Action Party has called for an investigation into how the video was leaked, saying the image of the country has been tarnished.

But Deputy Internal Security Minister Fu Ah Kiow said the video clip was recorded at a local prison several years ago and now used in drug prevention and other anti-crime campaigns.

He said he didn’t know how the video was made public, but added that its existence was “no big deal.”

“The video is a means to educate the public and to show how hideous caning can be. It is a deterrence for drug traffickers and drug addicts,” Fu told the AP.

“Somehow somebody duplicated it and posted it on the Web site, but it’s not done by our officials. The video is for education and training purposes, there’s no big deal about it.”

Caning is lawful in Malaysia for various offenses including drug crimes, rape and illegal entry into the country.

Fu said caning was done according to proper procedure, including medical checks before the caning and treatment after the punishment.

“Let’s not be hypocritical about this. Look at the harm done to victims of drug pushers and drug users, and the increase in violent crime,” he said. “We must show more concern to the victims than to the convicts.”

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I AM ACTUALLY AMUSED THAT SOME OF YOU HERE WANT TO DENFEND ISLAM. SINCE YOU LIKE LIVING IN DARKNESS, I WILL NOT MAKE YOU CHANGE YOUR MINDS, I WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE.BUT I WILL NOT STOP EXPOSING ISLAM. EVER.
Caning is lawful in Malaysia for various offenses including drug crimes, rape and illegal entry into the country.

do you see reasons for caining
 
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..........Muslims as well as Judaism faiths live under laws given by their doctrines.Christians on the other hand were freed from the burden of laws by christ,so that what guides us is the spirit of God,given by Jesus Christ who by his death,burial and resurrection provided grace to all who believe.
SORRY FOR THIS BUT I PITTY THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAID JESUS 'S SPIRIT GUIDE'S YOU IN MAKING DECISIONS, CHRISTIANS HAVE MADE THE LAW OF GOD TO LOOK SO DEMONIC IN OTHERPEOPLE'S EYES WHILE HE JESUS HIMSELF SAID HE CAME NOT TO CHANGE THE LAWS OF THE FOREFATHERS AND PROPHETS CAME AND DID YOU PEOPLE ARE LOST SOMETIMES I WONDER WHAT PICTURE OF CHRIST DO YOU SEE WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR VISIONS OR DREAMS.
 
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there's obviously something disturbing you, and i don't think it has anything to do with religion. mbona usichukue some time off to address the issue? the internet will still be here when you get back.
"Kenneth," that is a very important piece of advice. This thing seems to be stronger than you. Seek help, and let a professional assist you.

Just go ahead and do it, don't say to yourself, "I feel fine."
 
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Default Politics - 11-26-2007, 04:41 AM

Mr Kenneth

I read politics in your new found fervour of islamic persecution. Please do remember after 27th dec, we shall all be here as Kenyans, and no matter who wins, the sun shall rise from the east and set in the west after approximately 12 hours.

This looks like a 2 pronged attack on a particular political camp, especially after details emerged of an alleged MOU surfaced between Odinga and the Muslims. From a spinmaster point of view, you would need to create the fear of God to all, preying on the emotions and sensibilities, and trying to gain to create a we and them axis, recreating a post 9/11 bush stand in kenya. Christians Vs Muslims.

We have lived together for years, and Kenyas judicial system is unique in that, it caters for Islamic religious based cases separately, even our sister coutry TZ does not have this. There has never been a christian/muslim division on a grand scale probably at the family level with regards to issues like marriage.

That brings me to question Kobia and other administrators, when do we draw the line between opinion and hate propaganda? of any kind. Is it not for reasons like this that Felicien Kabuga is a fugitive and 800,000 rwandans dead. Kobia you have the numbers and the hits to your site, this vile messages whether here or in politics, are shaping impressionable minds, do something!!!
 


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Default 11-26-2007, 10:08 AM

This past week, I have received many responses from Muslims concerning my recent posts: islamic pedophilia ,'Allah' Is a False god.........find out now.... ,Why did we leave Islam?
In one breath, some of the writers would call themselves ''intellectuals'' and then accuse me of being a racist hater when I put tough questions to them that they could not answer. They maintained that as a christian, I just was not intelligent enough to understand Islam. The mistake these ''intellectuals'' made is believing that I have any intention of ''understanding'' Islam.

It has taken me since 9/11 to realize that civilized humans cannot understand Islam. I am just overjoyed and somewhat relieved that the world is finally waking up in time to see the rabid dog coming its way disguised as Islam.
If Bin Laden has done one good thing in his wretched life, it was to poke a stick in the eye of the world by bringing his radical beliefs forward and urging his followers to commit violent acts. It has taken some time for people to begin taking a look at Muslims in their own areas, but it is happening. The French and the English are beginning to ask themselves, ''When did this happen? When did 6 million Muslims get here and what are they planning to do?''

Approximately 33% of the world is Christian and 20% is Muslim, based on figures for the year 2000. The number of Muslims is growing at an alarming rate. Muslims immigrated to peaceful, mostly Christian countries in Europe where they had large families that were reasonably safe from the ravages of their own strict religious teachings. At least these Muslims were safe until the radical element migrated from the oppressive Middle Eastern countries and began exerting its power over the masses and started menacing the indigenous populations that took Muslims in and welcomed them over the years. The mind-control of the clerics over the average Muslim is frightening and total.

This problem is most notable in the smaller European countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden, where a backlash against Islam is growing because of the strict Islamic laws forbidding mingling with the non-Muslim citizens of a country. In short, Muslims do not fit in. They are not allowed to fit in. The religious leaders lose their total control of the people if those people are allowed to see and experience the freedom that others enjoy. This is why Islam loathes democracy. Democracy steals the power of the Islamic leaders. It gives the people the right to think for themselves and thinking people might start to question their laws. Free people will question the absolute authority and power of the Islamic leaders over every aspect of their lives from birth to often violent death.

These days, it seems that anyone who speaks out against Islam runs the risk of being murdered, as in the case of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh who was shot, stabbed, and then had his throat slit by a radical Muslim in the Netherlands. Van Gogh had made documentaries exposing the brutality directed at women under Islam. Now, mosques and Muslim schools have been burned and the normally peaceful Dutch are considering closing their borders at the very least and perhaps even expelling Muslims from their country. As one Dutch citizen said on a blog, ''This country is a free country but we can't even speak anymore without wondering if some Muslim will murder us.'' The hate and unrest towards the followers of Islam is growing. It is just a rumble now, but it will get louder as the killing and bombing continues across Europe.

A recent report on Fox News showed the hostility growing between the Swedes and their Muslim population. There are Muslim areas where firefighters and emergency personnel will not enter without a police escort because they will be attacked. Firefighters attempting to put out a fire in a mosque were stoned. The anger between these two forces in Sweden is growing and the most liberal country in Europe is contemplating the same action as the Netherlands. It seems Muslims feel their neighborhoods are not a part of Sweden anymore but theirs, to do with as they see fit. The Swedish government does not see it that way. In those pockets of Islamic rule, poverty is common, unemployment is high, and the clerics foment hate and point fingers of blame on the evil West for Muslims' lot in life.

In France, which has the largest Muslim population in Europe, Islamic clerics openly troll the streets seeking restless young men to indoctrinate and send out to kill for Islam. They weed out the weaklings by having them view videos of the actual torture and beheadings of human beings complete with the screams of pain and all blood and gore of a nightmare. They watch Islamic ''snuff films.'' This is what will be expected of them as ''warriors'' of Allah.

Here in the kenya we have a different set of problems. Kenya is just too large for Islam to overpower by reproduction. It has also been impossible to isolate its followers from the kenyan population and kenyan Muslims are far less likely to follow the path of death and destruction. Here, they take a different tact.

In America, on the other hand ,radical Islam is rampant in the prisons, converting the worst of the worst so that when they leave prison they are unleashed on society as pre-programmed, radical Islamic killing machines. On the outside they appear as average Americans which allow them to move about the country unencumbered and overlooked. These killing machines wait for their orders to kill and terrorize, cared for and protected by the radical Islamic element within our own borders.

Muslims live in the past where they had their glory days of conquest and power. They often refer to the Crusades, which ended around 1300, as if they happened last year. I am constantly reminded of Wounded Knee and American slavery. Wounded Knee took place in 1890 and slavery ended in the 1860s.

Muslim writers love to point out the Spanish Inquisition, which was an over-reaction to the conquests of Islam in Spain and was just as much political as religious. The Inquisition officially ended in 1834. What they fail to mention is that it was not only Muslims that were persecuted, but Jews and Protestants as well. Muslims always see themselves as the only victims of injustice in the world. Muslims also fail to mention that the Pope tried to intervene and stop the Inquisition but was unable to exert his power on the political machine.

Catholics look at this period in our history with shame, not pride. Belief in God or Jesus cannot be forced on someone; it must come from the heart. Forced conversion is not done out of love, but fear. Islam can control one's body, but it cannot control one's thoughts. Converts that are forced will not stay with Islam. They will leave it at the first opportunity.

This is knowledge that has escaped the Islamics. As they condemn the Spanish Inquisition, Islam is doing the same right now in countries such as Sudan. What Muslims are doing in Sudan is far worse than the Spanish Inquisition. Humanitarian groups estimate that since 1983, an estimated 2 million people have died from war and related famine in Sudan at the hands of the Islamic leaders. Anyone refusing to denounce Jesus and accept Islam is executed. Rape is used as a weapon. It seems that all modern-day Islam needs is a coliseum with some lions. Trapped in the past, Muslims call the coalition forces ''crusaders.''

Since the attack on 9/11 in the United States, the enemy has been exposed. The havens of safety in Afghanistan and Iraq have been taken from the Islamics. In its fury, Islam has made many mistakes. The attacks in Spain and in Bali and murders in the Netherlands and elsewhere have made the world realize that Islam is not just the enemy of America, but the enemy of the entire free world.

Some people were foolishly saying that America deserved to be attacked but when death came to their shores, they were taken aback. They had welcomed Muslims with open arms and this is how they are repaid for their kindness? Some countries are instituting laws that make our Patriot Act pale in comparison. Threatening tapes released by Bin Laden have had the opposite effect.

Instead of cowering, the world is beginning to look Islam in the eye and say, emphatically and collectively: ''NO! This will not be allowed.'' If it was a final crusade that Islam wanted, they have it.
 

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