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Default Does TIME exist? - 11-22-2007, 06:45 AM

I wish to draw the attention of all Mashadites to this trivial but crucial question. I am on this site to attempt to decolorize the black man's mind, which in my opinion is the first step towards the African renaissance now underway. I will like to carefully, sensitively and without the use of complex arithmetic show how the concept of time is the living demon.

Please feel free to accept, reject as you may.
 

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Default about time - 11-22-2007, 12:40 PM

albert einstiene theory of the parrellelity of time went as follows time ceases to exsist if one can travel fast enouff .it all in a frame time that is his example was for a person running the 100 meter race time is slowed down for him compers to the one who on the side lines wacthing ,why cause the one on the sidelines is confined in the time frame ,and the one who running has acertain speed which makes it possible to rearrgane this frame ,so according to his theory if you can travel faster then the speed of light time will just be framed past present and future will all be like a line or lane it contained .
 


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Default No - 11-23-2007, 11:10 AM

Time is all relative. Time is the measurement of the change of certain objects against other objects.

By "exist" I suspect you mean "objectively." No, you need other things to understand "time" - so no, time does not "exist." It is derived. Matter exists (we hope).

If nothing changed, and everything remained forever frozen in place relative to each other, there would be no "time."
 
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Default 11-23-2007, 03:17 PM

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I think you need to rephrase your question,or add a couple words in there.Reason to why I say this is because Safina does not know what kind of TIME you are talking about.As far as I know,there is three types of TIME.

1)Human time

2)cosmic time

4)Earth time
 
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Default 11-24-2007, 02:26 AM

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albert einstiene theory of the parrellelity of time went as follows time ceases to exsist if one can travel fast enouff .it all in a frame time that is his example was for a person running the 100 meter race time is slowed down for him compers to the one who on the side lines wacthing ,why cause the one on the sidelines is confined in the time frame ,and the one who running has acertain speed which makes it possible to rearrgane this frame ,so according to his theory if you can travel faster then the speed of light time will just be framed past present and future will all be like a line or lane it contained .
Reggae, it is really unbelievable that some one in his right mind will believe that time exist. As I said, let's not engage in complex arithmetic here. Let’s just say we ask every human being to jump at a given moment,can the action take place?
 

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I think you need to rephrase your question,or add a couple words in there.Reason to why I say this is because Safina does not know what kind of TIME you are talking about.As far as I know,there is three types of TIME.

1)Human time

2)cosmic time

4)Earth time
It's not as much an issue of rephrasing the question as of defining it safina. I’d certainly not like to start with that kind of thinking. Time is the brainchild of man and it’s an attempt to make sense out of the indefinable. It seems to say you, start here, you end there etc. This is only one of the myriad man created ironies of life but time in particular is the demon because it is the cause of all human vices and ultimately mankind’s doom. As bits and pieces of this very crucial issue start sticking together, we'll certainly begin to see why time is mankind's number one enemy. There is not a single human vice that is not related to time. It tries to locate man within an eternal infinitum. I regret because I feel I have lost something, I hope because I’m under the illusion that I will gain something. What I’ll further like to ask is can something (anything, everything etc) be lost or gained?
 
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Time is all relative. Time is the measurement of the change of certain objects against other objects.

By "exist" I suspect you mean "objectively." No, you need other things to understand "time" - so no, time does not "exist." It is derived. Matter exists (we hope).

If nothing changed, and everything remained forever frozen in place relative to each other, there would be no "time."
Can something, anything, everything etc be lost or gained?
 
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Default 11-24-2007, 10:39 PM

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I am not really sure if I understood what you just said.But basically what i was trying to tell you is that,those three types of 'times' I gave you are totally different.And they are totally different.

We cannot measure earth's age via human calender,coz we humans are recent.Or we cannot measure how old the galaxy is by human calender which is only 5766 years old(human time began 5766 years ago at 3.pm on a friday,or you can call it the beginning of genesis calender).

So can you be specific and tell us what 'Time" you wonna know more about.Thank you
 
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@aTABONG

I think you need to rephrase your question,or add a couple words in there.Reason to why I say this is because Safina does not know what kind of TIME you are talking about.As far as I know,there is three types of TIME.

1)Human time

2)cosmic time

4)Earth time


Please try and define 'Human time', 'Cosmic time' and 'Earth time' you have mentioned.
I am thinking that if everything (including thought) exist 'now' I suppose that though my mind is conditioned to accept that certain things or events etc have passed or are still to come everything still remains in 'now' with nothing lost or gained. Maybe I'm erring in the law but still, even that erring only exists now.
 
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Default Basic time - 11-25-2007, 07:43 AM

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Imagine two pairs of equally sized balls. In Pair 1, the balls are next to each other, touching. In Pair 2, the same thing applies.

You take a walk and when you return, there is a distance between the Pair 1 balls, say equal to the diameter of one ball (= x). But in Pair 2, the space between the stones is twice the diameter of a ball, i.e. 2x.

You take another walk and when you return, there is more distance between the Pair 1 balls, say equal to the diameter of two balls (= 2x). But in Pair 2, the space between the balls is now four times the diameter of a ball, i.e. 4x.

In fact, you begin to realize a pattern: every time I go away and come back, the balls in Pair 1 separate by x and the balls in Pair 2 separate by __x? Do we have enough to answer that, Mashadites?

In fact, the ratio between change in Pair 1 and Pair 2 is "time." Well, almost. We need to understand another dimension: the walking and coming back.
 
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