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11-16-2007, 04:55 AM
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That sounds like science to me.
Anyway, considering the fact that Ethiopian and Coptic churches were founded before western european churches, are they worshipping a white man's God?
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Ndigila, Without attempting to repeat too many historical facts Please put the following in chronological order: Coptic Church, Yeso, Plato. Be informed too that religion is the brain child of Science, and both are inextricable.
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11-16-2007, 05:42 AM
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if He was a white person's God, wouldn't the whites receive some measure of favor from him - which by the way isn't the case AT ALL??
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To correct black people's problem will require the black man to gather the courage and face the facts as they are. If some one doubts, we should point to the darkening clouds and tell them it's about to rain and not making superfluous statements.
To infer that white People are not more advanced and better off than black people is just laughable. And to infer that religion has nothing to do with the plight of the black man or that the white man's God has helped black people in any way is ridiculous as well.
Please follow the link below and see for yourself : EU Can't Let Boat People Die, Warns Human Rights Group | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 01.11.2007, and as I say: Truth speaks for itself
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11-16-2007, 10:23 AM
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Ndigila, Without attempting to repeat too many historical facts Please put the following in chronological order: Coptic Church, Yeso, Plato. Be informed too that religion is the brain child of Science, and both are inextricable.
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Can't find anything on Yeso, but Plato lived before the Coptic church.
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11-16-2007, 01:32 PM
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To infer that white People are not more advanced and better off than black people is just laughable. And to infer that religion has nothing to do with the plight of the black man or that the white man's God has helped black people in any way is ridiculous as well.
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lol. are you saying that God is biased toward whites? -that the white man's advancement is due to God's special favor toward them? -that God is anti-black?
Atabong, can a black individual advance as much as (if not more) than a white individual if he puts his faith in God?
The closer you look, the more you lose the bigger picture
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11-16-2007, 10:58 PM
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lol. are you saying that God is biased toward whites? -that the white man's advancement is due to God's special favor toward them? -that God is anti-black?
Atabong, can a black individual advance as much as (if not more) than a white individual if he puts his faith in God?
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Hope we're not having some thing amiss our conversation reggie.Before I attempt to throw further light on your query I'll like to clearify one thing with you and please be as sincere as possible.How do you define God?
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11-16-2007, 11:06 PM
ACTS 17:22-31
Acts 17:22-31 (New Living Translation)
22 So Paul, standing before the council,[a] addressed them as follows: “Men of Athens, I notice that you are very religious in every way, 23 for as I was walking along I saw your many shrines. And one of your altars had this inscription on it: ‘To an Unknown God.’ This God, whom you worship without knowing, is the one I’m telling you about.
24 “He is the God who made the world and everything in it. Since he is Lord of heaven and earth, he doesn’t live in man-made temples, 25 and human hands can’t serve his needs—for he has no needs. He himself gives life and breath to everything, and he satisfies every need. 26 From one man[b] he created all the nations throughout the whole earth. He decided beforehand when they should rise and fall, and he determined their boundaries.
27 “His purpose was for the nations to seek after God and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him—though he is not far from any one of us. 28 For in him we live and move and exist. As some of your[c] own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’ 29 And since this is true, we shouldn’t think of God as an idol designed by craftsmen from gold or silver or stone.
30 “God overlooked people’s ignorance about these things in earlier times, but now he commands everyone everywhere to repent of their sins and turn to him. 31 For he has set a day for judging the world with justice by the man he has appointed, and he proved to everyone who this is by raising him from the dead.”
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Holy Bible. New Living Translation copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. Used by permission of Tyndale House Publishers.
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11-17-2007, 05:34 AM
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Like I said, tradition maintains that they were started in first century A.D. by Apostles Mark and the Ethiopian royal official who was baptised by Phillip and according to Acts. The Coptic Orthodox church lists Apostle Mark as their first patriarch starting from 43 A.D. This was before Saul's conversion to Christianity, so technically Africa heard of Jehovah before western Europe.
And by the way the question is "Is Jehovah a white man's God?" lets not divert from that.
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Before we delve into specific historical and scientific facts (not just what tradition maintains or what the Bible states for that matter), I will like to know if you see any difference/similarities between JEHOVA, JEHOVA GOD, GOD, ALMIGHTY GOD, YAHWEH, YODHEVAHE and god.
Jehovah is a white man's god and not the Black man's.
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11-17-2007, 05:36 AM
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Before we delve into specific historical and scientific facts (not just what tradition maintains or what the Bibble states for that matter), I will like to know if you see any difference/similarities between JEHOVA, JEHOVA GOD, GOD, ALMIGHTY GOD, YAHWEH, YODHEVAHE,god.
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THOSE ARE DIFFERENT SPELLINGS AND PRONOUNCIATIONS OF THE SAME THING.
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11-17-2007, 12:11 PM
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Before we delve into specific historical and scientific facts (not just what tradition maintains or what the Bible states for that matter), I will like to know if you see any difference/similarities between JEHOVA, JEHOVA GOD, GOD, ALMIGHTY GOD, YAHWEH, YODHEVAHE and god.
Jehovah is a white man's god and not the Black man's.
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I'd like to know why you think Jehovah is a white man's God. Your answer shouldn't depend on what I think.
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11-17-2007, 09:56 PM
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I'd like to know why you think Jehovah is a white man's God. Your answer shouldn't depend on what I think.
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Because in Sunday school we were told that we are descendants from the curse of ham. I asked my Sunday school teacher (she was white), why the devil is always black and he says it is because he is dirty and that God abhors darkness.
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