[kachali]

3. Islam prohibits violence during wars; how can it then allow violence in normal times? the question of whether or not there is genocide or massacre or violence against human beings within islamic texts and the existence of violence towards men can be explained by the limitations and acceptable conducts during the time of war. A) forbidden actions during the war: killing through torture and atrocity; killing women who are not militaristically involved in war, children, slaves who are serving their masters, physically or mentally handicapped, old, sick and religious figures who have no interest in the world. However, if any of these join the war through their wealth or body, they can be killed. Cutting body parts of humans and animals is also forbidden. Acting against treaties and cease-fires is forbidden. Forests and vegetation cannot be burned unless it is necessary. Prisoners of war cannot be killed, the heads and other body parts of the dead cannot be desecrated or cut. Especially fathers and other close relatives, traders and merchants who are not involved in the war cannot be killed. There are other forbidden actions for the time of war but we will stop here. B) there are two types of actions that are forbidden in the time of peace but become acceptable in the time of war: first type: these include actions that are permissible against the enemy. It is permissible to kill, injure, follow and take prisoners from enemy soldiers. Those who cannot be killed were previously mentioned. Due to prophet mohammed’s hadith, “war is deceit” it is permissible surprise and cheat the enemy with the purpose of inciting the enemy to make strategic mistakes. “cold war” through propaganda is considered to be permissible as it is considered to be the prologue to wartime deceit. All kinds of weapons can be used. However, the use of poisonous weapons is condemned and rejected by muslim jurists. Burning castles and drowning the enemy is also permissible. As was done in badr war, water canals can be diverted and/or made unusable. Spies who pass information to the enemy are punished by death. In short, all actions except those that are specifically forbidden become permissible in the time of war. As an additional note, we should also state that naval and aerial warfare is acceptable.Second type: these include actions that can be taken against enemy wealth. Islamic law, as a principal, outlaws the destruction of any natural or private property. However, exceptions can be made in the time of war if the destruction of buildings or trees becomes necessary. It is impossible to think that a religion that has all these restrictions in place during war can promote or encourage violence, genocide, murder and massacres. 4. Fitnah (=instigation, provocation, testing and unjust persecution) the meaning of the word fitnah, in arabic, is “to burn ores that are extracted from the earth, like gold or silver, in order to separate the genuine from the sediment”. Quran calls separating the believers from non-believers, the auspicious from the aberrant and the good from the bad; and educating and testing and defining everyone’s real quality as fitnah. Therefore, the completely worldly life is a test and a fitnah. "every soul shall have a taste of death: and we test you by evil and by good by way of trial. To us must ye return." (anbiya: 21:35); "i know not but that it may be a trial for you, and a grant of (worldly) livelihood (to you) for a time" [[anbiya: 21:111]; "do men think that they will be left alone on saying, "we believe", and that they will not be tested? we did test those before them, and allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false" [ankakubt: 2, 3]; "your riches and your children may be but a trial: but in the presence of allah, is the highest, reward."[teğabün: 15] apart from the general meaning of fitnah as a test, we will also look at its meaning of “act of malice, causing disorder and disturbing the public peace”. This is why god said in quran: "..for provocation and instigation are worse than slaughter." (al-baqara: 2:191] "..and fight them on until there is no more provocation or instigation." al-baqara: 2:193] confusing people’s mind, causing them to act out of order and markedly unrestrained, and controversy were also considered as an act of malice. This ayat indicates this: " but those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except allah. "[al-i İmran, 3: 7] fitnah, in another meaning, means being exploited by ill-intended rulers and being oppressed by them. They said: "in allah do we put our trust. Our lord! make us not a trial for those who practice oppression" [yunus, 10: 85] 5. All religions accept that there is the hereafter and there is eternal punishment for unbelievers paul -- for instance -- says in the letter to the romans: "god has imprisoned men in their own disobedience only to show mercy to all mankind" (rom. 11:32). In the "eternal punishment" (matt. 25:46) of the last judgment the stress lies on the fact that this punishment is definitive, final, decisive for all eternity. In islam too, either reward or punishment awaits man at the end of the trial that is the life of this world. Those who engage in good deeds, and have faith in god, earn the good pleasure of god, and are rewarded with an eternal paradise . The wicked, those who deny god and transgress his limits, however, deserve hell, where they will encounter eternal punishment. Some ignorant people reads some qur’anic verses relating to eternal punishment and claims that the qur’an contains violence against humanity. Like verse 4: 56 “those who reject our signs, we shall soon cast into the fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, we shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for allah is exalted in power, wise.” this is ignorance of all sacred books and insulting them. “did you suppose that we created you for amusement and that you would not return to us?” (sura al-muminun: 115). According to islam, there is no contradiction between the existence and ghastly torments of hell, and infinite mercy, true justice, and wisdom with its balance and absence of waste. Indeed, mercy, justice, and wisdom require its existence. For to punish a tyrant who tramples the rights of a thousand innocents and to kill a savage animal that tears to pieces a hundred cowed animals, is for the oppressed a thousand fold mercy within justice. While to pardon the tyrant and leave the savage beast free, is for hundreds of wretches a hundredfold pitilessness in place of that single act of misplaced mercy. Not to cast him into hell would comprise innumerable instances of mercilessness to innumerable claimants whose rights had been transgressed, in place of a single misplaced act of mercy. Yes, if a worthless rebel who assaults the people says to the proud ruler of the place: “you can’t put me in prison!”, affronting his dignity, if there is not a prison in the town, the ruler will have one made just to throw the ill-mannered wretch into it. In conclusion, those, who accuse islam and quran for being a book of violence or a religion of violence, either are out of their mind or ill intended or mis-educated. We have to answer them with knowledge and reason. Sometimes it is best to ignore them. Hence, the famous proverb: “if you threw a stone at every barking dog, there would be no stone left in the world.” and my 30 cents worth samsons last act was to bring down a building i think thats equal to september 11 and august seventh no?

[KENNETH MATIBA]

Islam enjoys a large and influential ally among the non-muslims: a new generation of “useful idiots,” the sort of people lenin identified living in liberal democracies who furthered the work of communism. This new generation of useful idiots also live in liberal democracies, but serves the cause of islamofascism—another virulent form of totalitarian ideology. Useful idiots are naïve, they are foolish, they are ignorant of facts, they are unrealistically idealistic, they are dreamers and they are willfully in denial or deceptive. They hail from the ranks of the chronically unhappy. They are anarchists, they are aspiring revolutionaries, they are neurotics who are at war with life, they are disaffected alienated from government, corporations, and just about any and all institutions of society. The useful idiot can be a billionaire, a movie star, an academe of renown, a politician, or from any other segment of the population. Arguably, the most dangerous variant of the useful idiot is the “politically correct.” he is the master practitioner of euphemism, hedging, doubletalk, and outright deception. The useful idiot derives satisfaction from being anti-establishment. He finds perverse gratification in aiding the forces that aim to dismantle an existing order, whatever it may be: an order he neither approves of nor feels he belongs to. The useful idiot is conflicted and dishonest. He fails to look inside himself and discover the causes of his own problems and unhappiness while he readily enlists himself in causes that validate his distorted perception. Understandably, it is easier to blame others and the outside world than to examine oneself with an eye to self-discovery and self-improvement. Furthermore, criticizing and complaining—liberal practices of the useful idiot—require little talent and energy. The useful idiot is a great armchair philosopher and “monday morning quarterback.” the useful idiot is not the same as a person who honestly has a different point of view. A society without honest and open differences of views is a dead society. Critical, different and fresh ideas are the life blood of a living society—the very anathema of autocracies where the official position is sacrosanct. Even a “normal” person spends a great deal more energy aiming to fix things out there than working to overcome his own flaws and shortcomings, or contribute positively to the larger society. People don’t like to take stock of what they are doing or not doing that is responsible for the conditions of witch they disapprove. But the useful idiot takes things much farther. The useful idiot, among other things, is a master practitioner of scapegoating. He assigns blame to others while absolving himself of responsibility, has a long handy list of candidates for blaming anything and everything, and by living a distorted life, he contributes to the ills of society. The useful idiot may even engage in willful misinformation and deception when it suits him. Terms such as “political islam,” or “radical islam,” for instance, are contributions of the useful idiot. These terms do not even exist in the native parlance of islam, simply because they are redundant. Islam, by its very nature and according to its charter—the quran—is a radical political movement. It is the useful idiot who sanitizes islam and misguides the populace by saying that the “real islam” constitutes the main body of the religion; and, that this main body is non-political and moderate. Regrettably, a large segment of the population goes along with these nonsensical euphemisms depicting islam because it prefers to believe them. It is less threatening to believe that only a hijacked small segment of islam is radical or politically driven and that the main body of islam is indeed moderate and non-political. But islam is political to the core. In islam the mosque and state are one and the same—the mosque is the state. This arrangement goes back to the days of muhammad himself. Islam is also radical in the extreme. Even the “moderate” islam is radical in its beliefs as well as its deeds. Muslims believe that all non-muslims, bar none, are hellfire bound and well-deserve being maltreated compared to believers. No radical barbaric act of depravity is unthinkable for muslims in dealing with others. They have destroyed precious statues of buddha, leveled sacred monuments of other religions, and bulldozed the cemeteries of non-muslims—a few examples of their utter extreme contempt toward others. Muslims are radical even in their intrafaith dealings. Various sects and sub-sects pronounce other sects and sub-sects as heretics worthy of death; women are treated as chattel, deprived of many rights; hands are chopped for stealing even a loaf of bread; sexual violation is punished by stoning, and much much more. These are standard day-to-day ways of the mainstream “moderate” muslims living under the stone-age laws of sharia. The “moderate” mainstream of islam has been outright genocidal from inception. Their own historians record that ali, the first imam of the shiite and the son-in-law of muhammad, with the help of another man, beheaded 700 jewish men in the presence of the prophet himself. The prophet of allah and his disciples took the murdered men’s women and children in slavery. Muslims have been, and continue to be, the most vicious and shameless practitioner of slavery. The slave trade, even today, is a thriving business in some islamic lands where wealthy, perverted sheiks purchase children of the poor from traffickers for their sadistic gratification. Muslims are taught deception and lying in the quran itself—something that muhammad practiced during his life whenever he found it expedient. Successive islamic rulers and leaders have done the same. Khomeini, the founder of the 1979 iranian revolution, for instance, rallied the people under the banner of democracy. All along his support for democracy was not a commitment of an honest man, but a ruse. As soon as he gathered the reins of power, khomeini went after the useful idiots of his time with vengeance. These best children of iran, having been thoroughly deceived and used by the crafty phony populist-religionist, had to flee the country to avoid the fate of tens of thousands who were imprisoned or executed by the double-crossing imam. Almost three decades after the tragic islamic revolution of 1979, the suffocating rule of islam casts its death-bearing pall over iranians. A proud people with enviable heritage is being systematically purged of its sense of identity and forced to think and behave like the barbaric and intolerant muslims. Iranians who had always treated women with equality, for instance, have seen them reduced by the stone-age clergy to sub-human status of islamic teaching. Any attempt by the women of iran to counter the misogynist rule of muhammad’s mullahs is mercilessly suppressed. Women are beaten, imprisoned, raped and killed just as men are slaughtered without due process or mercy. The lesson is clear. Beware of the useful idiots who live in liberal democracies. Knowingly or unknowingly, they serve as the greatest volunteer and effective soldiers of islam. They pave the way for the advancement of islam and they will assuredly be among the very first victims of islam as soon as it assumes power.

[Muhammad_4]

You wrote that: Muslims are taught deception and lying in the quran itself".
Please show me where in the Quran, which verse number, please.