[ndigila]

Originally Posted by youngben

Hope am not being pushy but this thread has not been answered to anyones satisfaction.
The issue being "who changes the rules of what rules are to change??"

Its a very straight forward question, I would like to believe it has challenged most or is it an issue of no answer.

Regards all

If your Catholic, the Pope has the authority.

In the New Testament, sin is defined in various places. An example

Gal 5:19b-21a " adultery, fornication, uncleaness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like "

The rules changed only once, when the priesthood changed from the order of Melchizedek to the order of Jesus. The rules are not changing anymore, except ofcourse if your Catholic.

[wama]

You all need Jesus. go and get saved

[youngben]

Originally Posted by wama

You all need Jesus. go and get saved

@jasakwa and co.

Have gone nyuma to retrieve this thread, read it through and contribute if possible, its along the same lines as the masturbation thread.

[jasakwa]

Originally Posted by youngben

@jasakwa and co.

Have gone nyuma to retrieve this thread, read it through and contribute if possible, its along the same lines as the masturbation thread.

Thanks youngben,i will read it then respond shortly.i have come to appreciate contributions in the religion forum.The politics forum has been hijacked by substance abusers.

[jasakwa]

Originally Posted by youngben

I have always maintained that the old testament for all purposes and intent is a judaic book and has no bearing on christianity unless for reference. I have heard the argument that christianity is founded on the old testament but i prefer to put in the word "loosely based".

I came across an old joke that actually put things into perspective, if you have never read it, enjoy. If you have, reflect

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Dear Dr. Laura,
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's
Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to
share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone
tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply
remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an
abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the
specific biblical laws and how to best follow them. Specifically:

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it
creates a pleasing odour for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is
my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them.
Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned
in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a
fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is
in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The
problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women
take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male
and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not
Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.
Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I
morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
Abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than
homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if
I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading
glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some
flexibility here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the
hair around their temples, even though this is expressly
forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig
makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two
different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing
garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester
blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really
necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town
together to stone them? (Lev. 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn
them to death at a private family affair like we do with people
who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev.20:14).

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am
confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and
unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

Anita Heiss

What a humurous poet,well the old testament law books commonly called the torah,had harsh laws i agree.But the people who were living at that time were equally very very rebellious.The law never applied to any other person apart from judaism adents who were mainly the 12 tribes of Israel.Because the israelites rejected Jesus God had a plan B,and this was to ENLIGHTEN THE GENTILES and adopt them into the kingdom.So where as christians don't follow the torah laws dot by dot because Jesus summarised them into love.Love your God above all,and love your neighbour as yourself.

Now the reason why christians cannot do away with the old testament is because its forms the basis of the new testament.Prophets and writers in various books predicted the coming of Jesus,great tribulation and the final judgement.The old testament gives the christian a strong support for his faith knowing that since we live by grace of God we don't have to be ruled by the law which were serious burden and severe.There are some passages which has to be interlinked to get a complete understanding e.g. (Psalm 110; Isaiah 11:10; 49:6) completes its clarity in the New Testament (Matthew 8:10-12; 22:42-45; Acts 3:25; Galatians 3:8-16; Hebrews 1:13 ).