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Default From rags to riches - 08-12-2007, 01:28 AM

We all know that poverty is a bad thing.Not everyone has to be stinking rich,at the same time nobody deserves to be poor.

I have been reading the Bible and came across these two verses which are very striking.I am a bit puzzled because most christians don't think they have the right to be wealthy or prosper. Prospering is part of being whole; if you don't have it, you aren't whole and that is not how God planned it. You are not whole until you are financially whole and in order to receive that wholeness you must believe that this is at least part of what God wants for your life

2 Corinthians 8:9. "you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that you through His poverty might become rich"

Luke 4:18: The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

Lets debate this,i want to know your thoughts regarding these two verses.
 


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Default Literal - 08-12-2007, 06:59 AM

In my opinion and understanding,christ came to destroy the works of the Devil,and one area where the devil oppresses people is in poverty.The preaching brings about knowledge of truth which in turn sets people free from bondages that confine them to poverty,therefore becoming rich in the long run.
 


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Default 08-12-2007, 01:18 PM

We all know that poverty is a bad thing.Not everyone has to be stinking rich,at the same time nobody deserves to be poor.

Remember that Jesus said it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. (Mt 19:24)


I have been reading the Bible and came across these two verses which are very striking.I am a bit puzzled because most christians don't think they have the right to be wealthy or prosper. Prospering is part of being whole; if you don't have it, you aren't whole and that is not how God planned it. You are not whole until you are financially whole and in order to receive that wholeness you must believe that this is at least part of what God wants for your life

So are you saying that Christians shouldn't be poor?

2 Corinthians 8:9. "you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that you through His poverty might become rich"


Luke 4:18: The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,


These Bible verses cannot be talking about material possessions. If it was, then the implication is that Jesus Christ was born with material wealth and then he decided to give all that away so that we could become materially rich.

If you take a look at Paul's life, his life went from better to worse, materially speaking, when he became a Christian.

1 Cor 11:24-27
Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by my own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness

Yet in all these things he said that we are rich in Christ. Do you think he's talking about material prosperity?
 

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