The book of Enoch

Kigan · (#1 (**permalink**))

Enoch, the man who walked with God and was no more, wrote a book.
it has been quoted by Jude n the new testament, and from it we get the story of the fallen angels.

Read the whole book.
understand what happened when the angels fell.
Understand the source of evil.
Understand alot of things from the man that never died.

This is the most revolutionary reading of your life.

Book of Enoch

Dem Gal · (#2 (**permalink**))

What 'Bible' is the book of Enoch from? Just curious.

KEMINOKANA · (#3 (**permalink**))

Perhaps it is one of those books that werent included in the bible? This is where i doubt the bible at times.....why would some books be missing?

ATLian · (#4 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by KEMINOKANA

Perhaps it is one of those books that werent included in the bible? This is where i doubt the bible at times.....why would some books be missing?

Kemi,

because the Bible as we know is is just a collection of 66 books from hundreds of possible choices that was assembled by man. Like I always say, a group of biased and subjective white men met years ago and voted and chose which books to include in the Bible... For whatever reasons they came up with, Enoch wasn't deemed worthy of being in the final Bible.

reggie_woic · (#5 (**permalink**))

it doesn't seem relevant to the rest of the bible...just because it was not included by the "group of subjective white men" doesn't mean that they had suspicious ulterior motives.

the book wasn't destroyed or anything, it just isn't part of the bible (any more?) and nobody significant is denying its content.

KEMINOKANA · (#6 (**permalink**))

So who determined the relevance and what was the criteria? Doesnt the bible say those who add shall be added upon but those who remove even a single word from the bible shall face eternal condemnation?

Kinene wa Karani · (#7 (**permalink**))

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I beleive there is more to this book and some other old writings. I will get back to you on this matter with a proper response when time allows.

Kinene wa Karani

ATLian · (#8 (**permalink**))

So who determined the relevance and what was the criteria?

Kemi,

it was the founders of the Catholic church. There was never anything called the Bible. But there were tons of manuscripts from way back when. These men collected these manuscripts and chose which ones they wanted to keep coz they reflected what these men thought Christianity should be like. That's why when these Catholics chose celibacy for priests, then any books that referred to Jesus being married were deemed unworthy of the Bible. In other words, if these same Catholic men had not chosen celibacy, and they had wanted Jesus to be happily married, there would be 3 or 4 more books in the Bible tha reference his happy marriage and Jesus would be the role model to all married men!

A lot of stuff that is accepted as Biblical or godly fact is actually a result of a group of subjective white men voting them days. That is how the concept of the trinity came about, to name one example.

Doesnt the bible say those who add shall be added upon but those who remove even a single word from the bible shall face eternal condemnation?

I don't know. Where does the Bible say that?

ndigila · (#9 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by ATLian

So who determined the relevance and what was the criteria?

Kemi,

it was the founders of the Catholic church. There was never anything called the Bible. But there were tons of manuscripts from way back when. These men collected these manuscripts and chose which ones they wanted to keep coz they reflected what these men thought Christianity should be like. That's why when these Catholics chose celibacy for priests, then any books that referred to Jesus being married were deemed unworthy of the Bible. In other words, if these same Catholic men had not chosen celibacy, and they had wanted Jesus to be happily married, there would be 3 or 4 more books in the Bible tha reference his happy marriage and Jesus would be the role model to all married men!

If the catholic church tried to hide celibacy from the Bible they really didn't do a good job. Peter, the alleged first pope was married (Mt 8:14), 1 Tim 3:2 says that a bishop must be married or (depending on how you look at it) marry only one wife. 1 Tim 4:3 talks about an apostasy in which people will be forbidden to marry and abstain from certain foods.

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Originally Posted by ATLian

Doesnt the bible say those who add shall be added upon but those who remove even a single word from the bible shall face eternal condemnation?

I don't know. Where does the Bible say that?

The verse is Rev 22:19, but it probably refers to the book of Revelation rather than the whole Bible.

reggie_woic · (#10 (**permalink**))

Now i'm not an expert on the book of enoch, i doubt any of you guys here are either. When i said "Not relevant" to the rest of the bible what i meant was that it is not "scripture"...i.e its not exactly the "word of God" (notice the quotes)

Priesthood is based on Jesus's life...Jesus was celibate, so priests discipline themselves to follow in his way of life...how hard is that to understand? How the hell does Celibacy come into all this anyway??