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Default Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-09-2006, 09:38 PM

I skipped the Evolution course and thank God the semester ran out and we didnt get to it and maybe, I never will in my years of studying science, and maybe it will crawl up to me.


I am intrigged that there are no individualists in mashada. Everyone of you is quoting someone else. Evolution, you are quoting Darwin, a man, a man with a soul that dies. Some of you are quoting the Bible.

None of you has presented anything new. You are second-handers, just because u believe in someone or something it becomes supreme, evident. No one in mashada can think individually. We are a collective of " stolen" thought and we are trying to manipulate men who were thought to believe a certain way that creationism or evolution is fact.

Perhaps I am wrong to suggest but I am sickened by pple feeding children lactacting the evolutionary thought. Now as I said I might have been sleeping during those lectures and I memorized the ideas for the test, but if u what believe is individual u cant go on forcing a foolish person, a man who cannot think, a man who was spoon-fed in the American system to take ur word on fact. Who says evolution is fact and not an opinion. Let's stop being Hitler or Stalin rather and learn to speak less for that is wisdom.

If you believe in God of the heavens and the earth, God bless you. Even God did not force the pharisees to concur with him even though they knew that Jesus was the son of God. As Christians, we cannot convince men or even force men to accept because God gave us all a free will and I think some of you Christians are taking religion into ur hands, but u must know that u cant act God, unless God sends u to mashada to preach, please close ur mouth, perhaps u have degraded the Gospel and u are the barricade that is making other pple not to look to God. So let's ask God for wisdom, because even the Bible say, " a wise man wins souls". We cannot judge, not even Jesus judged, but we cannot tolerate, condone plasphemy.


If you believe in science,may the truth set you free. If beyond doubt nothing has convinced u that in the flowing waters, the floating rivers, the children born, the decaying of bodies, the singing birds, the crawling babies, the miracle of birth, the magnifence and consternation of stars, if nothing of all these convinces u that God is love, then I pray that you will find a way. It is not for me to judge and I think most Christians are so hopeless in this forum that God is not love anymore. It is my prayer that we will live what we preach.

If we sin we are enemies of God. Only God can judge. We are all " sinners" anyhow am not trying to preach. Let's call a spade and spade and stop punching believes into pple's throat. Let us let God and I believe that the "truth will set us free".

Amen.

 
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Default RE: Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-09-2006, 10:38 PM

Volina,

WTF are you talking about in your post. You make absolutely no sense, and I tried to re-read your post about 3 times. Maybe it's because of the many the grammatical errors, the non-flowing sentences, the ambiguities, the contradictions or the illogical things. Please expound clearly what you're trying to say. Are you ripping apart Christians? Atheists? Evolution? Creation? Or what?



>I skipped the Evolution course and thank God the semester
>ran out and we didnt get to it

It's sad to hear people of our age thinking like that. It's like someone proudly writing "I skipped the algebra/history/chemistry/geography course". Tafadhali explain to me why somebody can be proud of ignorance. How can you be proud of not learning? How can you then arrogantly tell the whole world about it? How do you write below "So let's ask God for wisdom" when you don't plan to apply that wisdom to learn? How can you then critique what you don't know?



>Who says evolution is fact and not an
>opinion.

If you hadn't skipped that class, you'd know that evolution is a theory, not a fact, and it definitely isn't an opinion. It's almost impossible prove a scientific theory to be a correct fact. That's why they're called theories. e.g. Pythegoras Theorem (I hope you didn't skip that geometry class) is still a theorem because it's impossible to check every single right-angled triangle and confirm that the 3 sides will always conform to the formula! But so many triangles have proven that it is a legitimate theorem, and tons of mathematical formulas are evidence for it's legitimacy, so it's now an acceptable theorem. Ditto evolution. It's still a theory, not a fact, but it has tons of evidence to prove it's legitimacy. But again, you'd have no idea of that since you skipped that class!

As for the THEORY of creation, please give me just one iota of evidence that can be independently, empirically, rationally and logically confirmed to back it up. Just one...
 
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Default RE: Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-10-2006, 01:44 AM

Volina,what are you talking about?

Like AT, I have re-read the post several times and each time I do it,I get more mixed up. Mara its evolution, mara Preaching, mara leave people alone????##!!@@&&&+*&
 


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Default RE: Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-10-2006, 08:10 AM

Volina, read 'The Origin of Species' and 'The Voyage of the Beagle: Charles Darwin's Journal of Researches' by Charles Darwin and then u can make your case. Otherwise, WTF????
 
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Default RE: Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-10-2006, 10:30 AM

@ Volina

I must admit that you are a good student,keep it up.The other day,you came in here quoting bible every other second,I don't see that anymore.once again,thank you,I know you are on the right track, undergoing stages of metarmophosis.Your wisdom eye will open once you reach the adult stage.

To prove that there is a God,volina said "look at the
>flowing water
water is nothing but two atoms of hydrogen + one oxygen.Give me that and I will make you water.

>born children,Miracle of birth
You got to be kidding here.whats so hard in undestanding the stages of formation of kids,right from fusion of sperm and egg,division of cells to birth(Don't tell me you missed that class too)

>decaying bodies
everything has to obey the second law of thermodynamics gal.Even the stars you are talking about burn out too(die).Thats why we are here anyway,we are nothing but dirt/little pieces of star that had gone astray.

Just do us one favour next time,don't preach to us,save that for THE Sunday school teachings.

Thanks Vayolina

 


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Default RE: Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-10-2006, 10:38 AM

Its so funny preachers,pastors send their kids to school to be doctors,scientists and all that.The fact that they send their kids to school or they go to school is nothing but LACK OF FAITH.

Out of curiosity,what do you wonna be when you grow up/careerwise,Volina

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Default RE: Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-10-2006, 11:33 AM

GADDAM!!! Were you high on PCP when you wrote this??????????

I think you skipped a little more than the course on evolution....
 
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Default RE: Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-10-2006, 12:45 PM

After sobering up, let me address what I was saying:

Please stop stomping down ma throat Evolution theory.
Everyone of you is an ignoramus. You are believing a theory, and some of u are beleiving the Bible.

u disgust me with all ur contributions about believes...huggz...
 
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Default RE: Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-10-2006, 01:26 PM

>Please stop stomping down ma throat Evolution theory.
>Everyone of you is an ignoramus.
>u disgust me with all ur contributions

Three things:
1. Such insults are uncalled for and downright uncivilized please try and conduct yourself in a more respectable manner.

2.If you insist on insulting someone else's intelligence, please make sure that you can at the very least construct a simple English sentence and spell basic words(it stops you from looking like a complete moron)

3. I'll assume you meant 'shoving the theory of Evolution down your throat', in which case I'd like to remind you first and foremost, that this is a discussion forum, you are going to encounter different points of view held by different people if you want to speak solely with people who share your point of view, I suggest going to your church. And perhaps you need to think about your own advice the next time you want to post more of those 'good news' posts of yours that this forum is filled with.

>You are believing a theory,


Yes I believe a theory. Please note that in Science the word theory does not mean the same as it does in layman's terms. The everyday use of the word 'theory' is closer to the word hypothesis in science. A theory is established; tried, tested and verified. The computer you used to type this garbage was made because of scientific theories, the structure you reside in was built thanks to scientific theories, you've probably been in some kind of vehicle today that was made thanks to....you guessed it scientific theories, the reality is that you apply multiple scientific theories to life every single day. So cut the garbage. Do not conveniently discard or discredit science simply because you've come across a theory that doesn't suit you. That, would be ignorant.
 
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Default RE: Creationism vs. Evolution - 11-10-2006, 02:17 PM

Thanks Death, I will consider that. I see nothing to be worked up for:)
 
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