[teejay]

Lets just put it this way, I heard what God said and I followed him. And now am saying what he said. He is the greatest and wisest ever person I ever heard say and do something worth talking about. I have no regrets in following what he has taught me through his word.

The bible will always come under ferrocious criticism and vehement denial, but it will always wither the storm. The word of God cannot be stopped. It is the living water that flows in every believer's soul. It is the light in this dark world.

Satjas dont rant, come along and I will show the springs where my water comes from.

[satjas]

Hey Teejay

>Lets just put it this way, I heard what God said and I
>followed him.

wrong dude!!! you have heard what others think god said to them over 2000 yrs ago and you are following those people, not god.

>And now am saying what he said.

again its only your imagination playing tricks on you. If you actually did what god wanted you to do you would not have the aloofness you potray here.

> He is the
>greatest and wisest ever person I ever heard say and do
>something worth talking about.

Jesus is not god and never did he claim to be god, yet he also said 'we are all gods'. i.e you and i too and all of mankind....that was the jist of his speech.

> I have no regrets in following
>what he has taught me through his word.

no one mentioned regretting anything....by all means follow what jesus says but don't follow what the bible says blindly. Jesus did not write the bible!!!

>The bible will always come under ferrocious criticism and
>vehement denial, but it will always wither the storm.

yes you are right here, in fact too correct!!! everytime the bible came under scrutiny, the so called bible scholars amended some verses and re-wrote the bible to accomodate the newer school of thought....hence the thousands of different versions you got.


>The word
>of God cannot be stopped.

no one is attempting to stop the word of god. however i think you are trying to say the bible cannot be stopped. well in fact the muslims have done a damn good job of stopping it in the middle east. They also claim 'the word of god, allah cannot be stopped'.

> It is the living water that flows in
>every believer's soul. It is the light in this dark world.

ok i don't know what exactly you mean by 'living water'?? is there a dead water too by any chance??? and oh, i hope you also know that muslims claim to be believers too.

>Satjas dont rant, come along and I will show the springs where
>my water comes from.

dude, i have been there, but it dried up when the true light shone upon it. I have read the bible enough to know it has contradictions in abundance. I read it with an open mind, not in blind faith. I have alot of respect for jesus and his teachings, who, unlike his counterpart mooHamMad, taught through love and compassion. He NEVER retaliated even in the worst of circumstances, even when it meant giving up life.

sometimes what may seem as a rant to you may prick others' conscience to question deeply the bible and establish a serious paradigm shift, the like of which is needed desparately to rid the world of these deadly religions....'Dead'ly is the key word.

-the paradigm shifter

[teejay]

Ever had of backsliding Satjas? Besides I dont know what you mean by having respect for what you dont believe. Sound like a case of giving with the right hand and taking it away with the left hand.

You want to become a muslim or anything else is fine. That is why we always have choices. But trying to say subtly assert that you are in the middle ground is of no help. You are either within God's family or without it.

By the way, how did you come to have respect for christ who apparently to you did not write the bible?

[satjas]

>Ever had of backsliding Satjas?

yes i have......but how can one backslide from something one has never been????

> Besides I dont know what you
>mean by having respect for what you dont believe.

I do not believe in santa claus, but i respect the aspect of joy and wonderfulness santa claus brings to little children.

>Sound like a
>case of giving with the right hand and taking it away with the
>left hand.

respect is never given, it is always earned. That has been the case everytime in history. A second note is...what would we give jesus that he does not have. What would you give jesus teejay? do you think jesus has any needs? Does god have any needs for that matter?
what would a mere person like me have to give?


>You want to become a muslim or anything else is fine.

i have a choice don't I?? (although this almost sounds like an insult, having read my previous posts)

>That is
>why we always have choices.

exactly, so what is ur problem?

>But trying to say subtly assert
>that you are in the middle ground is of no help. You are
>either within God's family or without it.

Oh believe you me it is impossible to live outside the 'family' of God. But that family is not christians or muslims or buddhists or jews or whatever, it is the whole of humanity!!!
even the middle ground you talk about has the existence of god in plenty....in other words there is no middle ground. Those who think they are living 'outside' the 'family' of god are also deluding themselves. How? try reading these two sentences and see which one makes more sense.

There is only one God
There is only One, God.

can you see the fallacy in the first statement? why would God keep on saying 'there is one god'??? do you keep on telling your kids, 'there is only one dad'? when you very well know that there is no other???? isn't it obvious?? unless you think its not....

the second sentence makes more sense. it tells us the sum of all is one. In the beginning and in the end there is only one. we all, everything is all one. You, coach, TM, atlian, me, we are all one.


>By the way, how did you come to have respect for christ who
>apparently to you did not write the bible?

It is a fact proved by the bible itself that jesus christ did not write the bible. It was written by men who were inspired by the life of jesus. Unless you know something we don't, can we at least agree that Jesus did not write the bible?????

-the paradigm shifter.

[teejay]

Yes I Satjas I know something you Dont. I Know Jesus.

[satjas]

>Yes I Satjas I know something you Dont. I Know Jesus.

its only one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.......this is where you conveniently achieve a mental block and use the get out clause as if you are the only one who knows Jesus. Don't be silly teejay, you assume everyone else doesn't know jesus, you kid yourself.

get out of this mental delusion, please and do not be so arrogant.

-the paradigm shifter.

[teejay]

No satjas you assumed that I assumed. Besides even if I assumed that you did not know Jesus, I'd be right. If you had Jesus then you'd bring forth fruits that taste like Jesus, for it is said that Mango fruit never falls from a thorn tree. If you know Jesus don’t show it to me use you knowledge of him to honour his command.

“Go ye unto the world and make disciples out of the nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit”.

So far what you doing here Satjas is sawing doubts and seeking to endear believers to Satan more than displaying your knowledge of/ and for God.

As for the arrogance statement you make about me, I think you are jumping a little bit above your head. Calm down, sit down, drink some water and fart a little and let some steam off your ears, relax and then you will be fine. You will then find out that am talking you into some spiritual sense.

God loves you even when you think that talking about him makes one delusional and silly. You know the best thing about following Christ is that you are told not expect anything good out this world. Satjas am not the first to suffer delusions Peter, Paul etc did before me, and above them all Christ himself was demonised. Am exceedingly glad that I am another statistic in that list.

[muscleman]

Wajibu, you are so stupid, and if you're not careful you will be stupid beyond repair.