[Wantai]

Sally jumped up as soon as she saw the surgeon come
out of the operating room. She said: "How is my little
boy? Is he going to be all right? When can I see him?"

The surgeon said, "I'm sorry. We did all we could, but
your boy didn't make it."

Sally said, "Why do little children get cancer?
Doesn't God care any more? Where were you, God, when
my son needed you?"



The surgeon asked, "Would you like some time alone
with your son? One of the nurses will be out in a few
minutes, before he's transported to the university."

Sally asked the nurse to stay with her while she said
good-bye to son. She ran her fingers lovingly through
his thick red curly hair.

"Would you like a lock of his hair?" the nurse asked.

Sally nodded yes. The nurse cut a lock of the boy's
hair, put it in a plastic bag and handed it to Sally.
The mother said, "It was Jimmy's idea to donate his
body to the university for study. He said it might
help somebody else. "I said no at first, but Jimmy
said, 'Mom, I won't be using it after I die. Maybe it
will help some other little boy spend one more day
with his Mom." She went on, "My Jimmy had a heart of
gold. Always thinking of someone else. Always wanting
to help others if he could."

Sally walked out of Children's mercy Hospital for the
last time, after spending most of the last six months
there. She put the bag with Jimmy's belongings on the
seat beside her in the car. The drive home was
difficult. It was even harder to enter the empty
house. She carried Jimmy's belongings, and the plastic
bag with the lock of his hair to her son's room. She
started placing the model cars and other personal
things back in his room exactly where he had always
kept them. She laid down across his bed and, hugging
his pillow, cried herself to sleep.

It was around midnight when Sally awoke. Laying beside
her on the bed was a folded letter. The letter said:

"Dear Mom, I know you're going to miss me; but don't
think that I will ever forget you, or stop loving you,
just 'cause I'm not around to say I LOVE YOU. I will
always love you, Mom, even more with each day. Someday
we will see each other again. Until then, if you want
to adopt a little boy so you won't be so lonely,
that's okay with me. He can have my room and old stuff
to play with. But, if you decide to get a girl
instead, she probably wouldn't like the same things us
boys do. You'll have t o buy her dolls and stuff girls
like, you know. Don't be sad thinking about me. This
really is a neat place. Grandma and Grandpa met me as
soon as I got here and showed me around some, but it
will take a long time to see everything. The angels
are so cool. I love to watch them fly. And, you know
what? Jesus! doesn't look like any of his pictures.
Yet! , when I saw Him, I knew it was Him. Jesus
himself took me to see GOD! And guess what, Mom? I got
to sit on God's knee and talk to Him, like I was
somebody important. That's when I told Him that I
wanted to write you a letter, to tell you good-bye and
everything. But I already knew that wasn't allowed.
Well, you know what Mom? God handed me some paper and
His own personal pen to write you this letter. I think
Gabriel is the name of the angel who is going to drop
this letter off to you. God said for me to give you
the answer to one of the questions you asked Him
'Where was He when I needed him?' "God said He was in
the same place with me, as when His son Jesus was on
the cross. He was right there, as He always is with
all His children.

Oh, by the way, Mom, no one else can see what I've
written except you. To everyone else this is just a
blank piece of paper. Isn't that cool? I have to give
God His pen back now. He needs it to write some more
names in the Book of Life. Tonight I get to sit at the
table with Jesus for supper. I'm, sure the food will
be great.

Oh, I almost forgot to tell you. I don't hurt anymore.
The cancer i s all gone. I'm glad because I couldn't
stand that pain anymore and God couldn't stand to see
me hurt so much, either. That's when He sent The Angel
of Mercy to come get me. The Angel said I was a
Special Delivery! How about that?
Signed with Love from: God, Jesus &Me.

************************************************** ********

Let's see Satan stop this one.
Take 60-seconds and send this to five other people,
within the hour, you will have caused a multitude of
believers to pray to God for each other. Then sit back
and feel the Holy Spirit work in your life for doing
what you know God loves

[dadyamaru]

@ wantai...
as much as i force myself to digest this ,i cannot understand if wotever u posted is a question or jst an ordinary email.

Well wea do dead p/ple go?
This one depends with ur faith.
In Islam we believe there's lyf after death bt christians bliv wen u die u go to rest.

Depending on how u lived ur lyf on earth.
We believe lyf continues in the grave.
If ur deeds were good then u'll have a wonderful lyf in the grave bt if ur deeds were bad then too bad

[Wantai]

>@ wantai...
>as much as i force myself to digest this ,i cannot understand
>if wotever u posted is a question or jst an ordinary email.
>
>Well wea do dead p/ple go?
>This one depends with ur faith.
>In Islam we believe there's lyf after death bt christians bliv
>wen u die u go to rest.
>
>Depending on how u lived ur lyf on earth.
>We believe lyf continues in the grave.
>If ur deeds were good then u'll have a wonderful lyf in the
>grave bt if ur deeds were bad then too bad

dadyamaru, if you look at the title of this thread carefully, it says FWD: where do the dead go? FWD meaning foward. I got this foward on my personal e-mail and I wanted to see the views of mashadites and mashadarettes on life after death, if any at all. Thanks for your contribution.

[safina]

Good question

reminds me of ma bumper sticker that reads "Out of ma rotting body will grow flowers and to me that is eternity"

Some people(religious) believe our soul is trapped in our human body and limits human experience and knowledge.When one dies,their souls are free of limitation,thats when you experience the world as it is.

Would we be better of if there was no life after death?
Imagine,just laying down,motionless,nothing to worry about,no pain no stress,don't have to worry about waking up tomorrow,no logging on mashada to be insulted,costing you nothing to get all this peace.What else would you want?

The story of the little kid is nothing but a way to put fear in people,and make them feel that there is hope of more life.Thats what build or has build religion.WE just can't handle the truth.

There was this story(real life story) of a filthy rich man who died.He feared death so much that he designed his tomb before he died.His body was to be placed in the tomb that had an electric bell.The reason for the bell was ,so he could ring it just incase he woke up.His beloved wife has been waiting to hear thing bell ring upto now.I forgot to tell you that his tomb door was made in a way that it could only be opened from inside(I guess to stop anyone with intentions of stealing his body.

I Safina would be at peace if ma remains were dispersed in space.Reason being,incase human beings were extinct,something(someone) out there could access ma DNA and jumpstart the human race all over again.

[teejay]

The dead go down to the grave/hades/hell and they remain there until such a time that Christ shall bring them forth.

[Volina]

14. What are the dead doing today?
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Ecclesiastes 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
Psalm 88:12 (NIV) Are your wonders known in the place of darkness, or your righteous deeds in the land of oblivion?
Psalm 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
Psalm 115:17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.
Answer: Nothing, they are dead and awaiting one of two resurrections.

15. Do the dead haunt houses?
Job 7:9-10 As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. He shall return no more to his house , neither shall his place know him any more.

16. How does the Bible describe death?
Psalm 13:13 Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;
1 Corinthians 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
Matthew 9:24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.
Mark 5:39 And when he was come in, he saith unto them, Why make ye this ado, and weep? the damsel is not dead, but sleepeth.
Luke 8:52 And all wept, and bewailed her: but he said, Weep not; she is not dead, but sleepeth.
John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
John 11:32 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
Deuteronomy 31:16 And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers;
Acts 13:36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:
1 Kings 2:10 So David slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David.
1 Kings 11:43 And Solomon slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David his father: and Rehoboam his son reigned in his stead.
2 Samuel 7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
Acts 7:59-60 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-15 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep
Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Answer: It is compared to sleep.

17. When is the resurrection?
John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Answer: On the last day, at the second coming when Jesus returns.

18. When does mortal man receive the gift of immortality?
Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Isaiah 40:10 Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
Isaiah 62:11 Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.
I Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Answer: On the last day, at the second coming when Jesus returns.

19. Does God want ANYONE to perish?
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Matthew 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Answer: No, death was not part of God's original plan. He want's all of His children to live forever.

20. Will the existence of sin force God to do something contrary to His character?
Isaiah 28:21 For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.
Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Answer: Yes, God has a very difficult job to do.

21. Has God punished anyone yet?
Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.
2 Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
Matthew 13:40-42 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
Answer: No, but a time has been set.

22. Will the unsaved need to be resurrected before they are judged?
Revelation 20:5-6 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Answer: Yes, there is a second resurrection.

23. Is Satan currently hanging out in a magical cavern under the ground poking and prodding poor suffering souls with a pitch fork?
Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job 2:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Answer: No, he is on Earth with us today. He would like you to think that he is somewhere else though.

24. What is the penalty for sin?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Answer: Death. It is NOT eternal life.

25. What is the eventual fate of Satan?
Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
Ezekiel 28:18-19 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
Answer: He will be burned up and will no longer exist.

26. What is the eventual fate of the unsaved?
James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Malachi 4:1-3 For behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch." "And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts."
Psalm 21:9 Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.
Psalm 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
Psalm 37:38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
Psalm 62:3 How long will ye imagine mischief against a man? ye shall be slain all of you: as a bowing wall shall ye be, and as a tottering fence.
Psalm 104:35 Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.
Psalm 145:20 The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy
Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.
Answer: They will be burned up, and will not exist any more. And with them, sin will be irradiated from the universe.

27. What is God going to destroy in hell fire?
Matthew 10:28 Rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

http://www.bismarcksda.org/death.html

[dadyamaru]

>The dead go down to the grave/hades/hell and they remain
>there until such a time that Christ shall bring them forth.


ITS ONLY GOD WHO WILL RESSURRECT THE DEAD NOT JESUS.

Give a fool enough rope and he will hang himself

[teejay]

>ITS ONLY GOD WHO WILL RESSURRECT THE DEAD NOT JESUS.

Dady, only the Islamic Jesus is that Useless.