[ATLian]

>Brother ATlian, the naivity with which,you ask questions
>always lure me to come after you.

I think the naiveness is coming from your side, since you consistently chose to close your eyes and defend the illogical...



>When he
>was stepping in and wiping out all those evil people you
>defended them. In fact God was a mass murderer to you. Why are
>you now questioning God's wisdom?

I think you have me confused with somebody else. I never ingilia god for killing evil people - I always ingilia him for killing the innocents. When he wipes out the evil people in Soddom, why does he include the innocent babies with the evil ones?



>Satan has for ages tried to
>protray God as dictator yet he has from time to time failed to
>achieve that end.

Please give me just ONE specific Biblical example where Satan tried to potray god as a dictator but failed. Just one!



>You see, God loves even the
>worst of all sinners, unlike you and me. To him It does not
>matter how many people one has raped, it doesn't matter how
>many people one has killed.

Well, to me it matters. It's very hard to convince a rational person that despite killing millions, Hitler will be in heaven if he prayed to god for forgiveness seconds before he died - then tell the same person that we are all born with original sin because Adam and Eve ate a freaking fruit, therefore all babies will go to hell unless they're baptized or whatever. That just doesn't make sense.

[m kenya]

>So God is dead to you, Bachelor. Plus Evolution makes a lot
>of sense to you.Did you know what the bible says about people
>like you.
>
>" A fool says in heart, thata there is no God"
>
>Now you know who you really are- a fool. Thou says the holy
>word of God.
>
>I did not want to say this, but I think as time Goes by I may
>just have to say it. That The more man get eduacted the more
>they become insane. Take Bachelor for instance. This lad
>thinks that man Evolved from dust for billions of years ago.
>Let me ask him afew questions
>
>1. How come there are no more people evolving from dust
>today?
>
>2.Charles Darwin himself was a product of a marital union
>between man and woman where did he get his idea that man
>evolved from dust?
>
>3. Am sure the man during his days, he must have done what I
>did as a child,given that there were PS1 & PS2-mold clay
>figures that resembled man. Did he manage to see even one
>those turn into a human?
>
>Yet you claim that Evolution can be substantiated.


Bachelor, has raised pointed questions teejay,
i think is good to admit that we wrestle with these things. Calling him a fool, via the Bible doesnt help shed light on things.
How come till today we have bones of prehestoric animals and human beings being discovered?

Those human beings who were discovered were like monkeys, where was God then? they existed like 6 million years ago. They looked like monkeys, were they still in God's image? They had premolars and canines.

Yenyewe, i struggle with these things too...
The holocaust, God's own people, the jews, were massacred. Couldnt God step in and save them? Africans and slavery. Ok lets go abit further, the tsunami that occured, the people who died then, did they know God? Couldnt God have forewarned them? Werent there innocent lives lost?

These questions vex the human soul.

A friend of mine from home told me that last month, the wife of a certain gospel singer called Reuben Kigame, who was blind from birth, died. She died in an accident. This guy had been saved from like childhood, when he was blind. Then his wife dies. I was told that they had like 4 young kids, aged 2-11 years..???????????????
So now? God's servant from kidhood, his wife dies, 4kids to boot. Now?
Teejay, you gatta admit life isnt as simplistic an explanation as u would put it.

[teejay]

>I think the naiveness is coming from your side, since you
>consistently chose to close your eyes and defend the
>illogical...

AT Bwana, you know that human logic will always fail them, esp when they try to reason out spiritual things with their so called logic.

>I think you have me confused with somebody else. I never
>ingilia god for killing evil people - I always ingilia him for
>killing the innocents. When he wipes out the evil people in
>Soddom, why does he include the innocent babies with the evil
>ones?

This is why I tell you that you need to embrace Spiritual garment in order to undertand God otherwise you will always look at Him from that point of view. God is very just and there is no way he'd destroy what is clean or innocent. He got Mr Lot out of Sodom before he destroyed because Lot was faithful unto him?

>Please give me just ONE specific Biblical example where Satan
>tried to potray god as a dictator but failed. Just one!

Have you ever read the conversation between the Serpent in the Garden of Eden and Akina Adam? Have you ever tried to find out the deeper meaning of the Serpent's words?

>Well, to me it matters. It's very hard to convince a rational
>person that despite killing millions, Hitler will be in heaven
>if he prayed to god for forgiveness seconds before he died -

I take it that a rational person will mean you- The unbeliever

>then tell the same person that we are all born with original
>sin because Adam and Eve ate a freaking fruit, therefore all
>babies will go to hell unless they're baptized or whatever.
>That just doesn't make sense.

I asked this question once and you ignored it. I will ask you again.
What is your understanding of the original sin.

[satjas]

>>-the paradigm shifter.....God's friend.....umm..Dead God's
>>friend.
>
>Or more accurately:
>God's dead friend


Hey don't be silly, i wouldn't be writting this if i were dead, now would i? Other wise i take that as a direct threat............i hope the moderators are taking note of this.....

[Volina]

No one knows the mind of God, no on earth. You know, you amuse me, but I find that most people are ignorant of who God is. It is ok to question, but God has given us all the reasons to our question according to His own view. He knows what he withholds from us and what he wants us to know.

Since I dont have enough time, I will reference you to read below, I will come to elucidate on this topic in the weekends. I found it, eureka. Praise God!


http://www.to-natures-god.net/page_12.htm

http://www.catholicnews.So Why Do Bad Things Happen?

by Stacy James
The biggest question with evil is, "Why doesn't God prevent it from happening?" If God is really an all-good and all-powerful being, why doesn't he do something?
http://www.everystudent.com/wires/stacyjames2.html


http://www.gotquestions.org/bad-things-good-people.html


com/data/stories/cns/0500120.htm

[Native son]

Bachelor, you need prayers. You also need to repent. You still have time.

[satjas]

i am a worse sinner than him, please pray for me too native son?? And the day after tomorrow, when God has heard your prayer and talked to you, i will wake up a new person with Jesus in my heart, my personal saviour, my God. I think God will listen more to you than I, a big sinner. Please let me know the outcome.......if i am still a sinner the day after tomorrow then i will assume that God did not respond to your prayer, hence you might be equally a big sinner like me???



The soul is that which beholds beauty even when the mind denies it.

[spider-ndwalz]

come on now dont be silly...
you know deep down there is something bigger than you...dont deny the undeniable...God is real...how else would you be concieved, be alive, and kickin?

'' for i know the plans i have for you, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a hope and a future''

think about it...
the stars , the constellations..the sun, ...now do you think that all these are a result of some cosmic catalystic reaction...( no offence to the idiots who reasoned out this way)but seriously, all you need to do is close you eyes and open them again and surely you will know there is a God. It's that simple- period.

[Eden_2005]

according to Xianity no sin is bigger than the other and God will forgive all who repent. Therefore the guy who ordered mass killing in rwanda, hitler, Bin Laden, child predators etc...will be judged with me and if they repent will go to heaven. So if i steal a loaf of bread and not repent i will go to hell and not them?? this is too frustrating. Or wat if Ghandi had an affair and cheated on his wife...after all the good he did, he will go to hell but hitler will be kickin it with Jesus?? there must be another way

[reggie_woic]

a post from bachelor with no grammatical mistakes can only mean one thing...
here's the source.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/libra...kins_18_3.html

"popes sleep with little boys in his name"?!?
come on bachelor...POPES?