[ATLian]

I don't know if you guys caught this one. The links I've attached below show the pictures...

16-Year-Old Executes His Father's Killer

A Somali teenager has stabbed his father’s killer to death in a public execution ordered by an Islamic court. A large crowd was present in the Somali capital, Mogadishu, to witness 16-year-old Mohamed Moallim stab Omar Hussein in the head and throat. Hussein was earlier convicted of killing the boy’s father, Sheikh Osman Moallim after an argument about Mohamed’s education.

During the execution, Hussein was bound to a stake and his head covered with a bag. As the boy stepped up to carry out the execution, Hussein shouted, "There is no God but Allah."

After the execution, the boy said he felt satisfied that Hussein was dead. "I am happy now because I killed the man who killed my father," he told Reuters.

Under Sharia law, murder is punishable by death. Some feel Islamic courts have brought some order to Mogadishu by imposing Sharia law after years of violent rule by warlords. Residents have reported a drop in robberies, murder and other crimes since the court was brought into action.


http://www.ogadennews.com/killing.html

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/16yea...0 6_2006.html

[reggie_woic]

+ the stabee, did he have a son? because i believe he has some
stabbing of his own to do.

+ on a serious note, i find such laws to be very disturbing. for
ever person murdered, two people are buried. if someone killed a
person i loved, i hope i wouldn't have to go to such lengths for
justice; endless torture maybe, but death- no way.

[teejay]

>During the execution, Hussein was bound to a stake and his
>head covered with a bag. As the boy stepped up to carry out
>the execution, Hussein shouted, "There is no God but Allah."

Once gain ATlian what I have always said has been proved right. That there is is no God is Islam world but Allah is a fact.

>After the execution, the boy said he felt satisfied that
>Hussein was dead. "I am happy now because I killed the man who
>killed my father," he told Reuters.

So the sharia law is meant ot please humans. We all that self is the most corrupt thing. When one always desires to satisfy sel,f they are constantly tempting evil, which is not slack to honour their requests.

>Under Sharia law, murder is punishable by death. Some feel
>Islamic courts have brought some order to Mogadishu by
>imposing Sharia law after years of violent rule by warlords.
>Residents have reported a drop in robberies, murder and other
>crimes since the court was brought into action.

I see what moslem (some in here)mean when they talk of the peace that Islam gives them

ATlian you did not warn me. Were those picks from a movie or real life situation? How crude. These people really need to Know christ and stop living under sin unbelief. When Christ is in you, then you know that Vengeance is God's. Moreover you will heap hot coal on your enemy's head by extending love and affection to them.

Unfortunately the religion of Allah does not seem to bother with Love.

TRUELY SAVAGE JUSTICE

[Coach]

ATLian,
A life for a life is how it should be according to the Shari'a but there are many things that are overlooked here.

- First of all, there should be a form of government to rule over the people and not a kangaroo court that that does bloody stunts in front of women and children. What this means is that Hadd punishments can not be applied to a poor people, i.e. a poor hungry person can not have his hands cut for stealing to feed his starving stomach. There has to be a welfare system that makes sure that no one is forced to do crime to survive. Somalia has been without a govt for over 15 years so it doesn't fulfil this major criteria.

- Secondly, Somalia has been in a state of anarchy for more than 15 years and many rapes, murders and other horrible crimes have been committed by many people. Making a teenager kill his father's killer doesn't do the society any good, keep in mind that there were warlords who were getting money from the CIA and this enabled them to continue to rule unopposed, unjustly for a long time. If you want to kill mosquitos you drain the swamp and not squash one tiny mosquito and claim you've done a great job. They were wrong to go after a private person at a time when the country was under blood-thirsty warlords and other groups.

- Thirdly, Somalis everywhere were disgusted with the manner in which the man was killed. I'm a member in various Somali websites and I can give you links where you can see people expressing dismay.


These actions were NOT done in accordance to the Shari'a but you have teejay here who is jumping in joy because he thinks he has found a bit more fuel for the fire he is kindling (his efforts to discredit Islam and hope to win some brownie-points in his quest to preach his faith). The man went as far as claiming that Islam was started by Catholics, not even the most audacious Orientalists like Dante could dream of making such silly utterances.

[ATLian]

TeeJay,

a while back, you said you would gladly hack, stab and burn to death INNOCENT CHILDREN only because god commanded you to. This guy stabbed to death a GUILTY MAN who had killed his father, again because Allah commanded that fate for murderers. So aren't you being hypocritical by attacking the executioner and his religion and beliefs with such passion? Isn't hypocritical to be willing to do the same to innocent children yet act shocked and repulsed when it'e been done to a guilty murderer?

BTW if it was under the Bible laws, the man would have been stoned to death outside the city gates under god's commands. What is the difference?

[teejay]

>TeeJay,
>
>a while back, you said you would gladly hack, stab and burn to
>death INNOCENT CHILDREN only because god commanded you to.
>This guy stabbed to death a GUILTY MAN who had killed his
>father, again because Allah commanded that fate for murderers.
>So aren't you being hypocritical by attacking the executioner
>and his religion and beliefs with such passion? Isn't
>hypocritical to be willing to do the same to innocent children
>yet act shocked and repulsed when it'e been done to a guilty
>murderer?

ATlian, I agree with what you say that I said. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. But unfortunately many of us in here,that I have met seem to be very confused when it comes to biblical writs. Even though they are able to quote and counterquote from it, I still find some very wanting in their references.

What you ask here is a broad topic which I cannot discuss now because of time factor; as to why God directed people to be killed then and why a sudden change of events. Many people have asked this question. Yet only afew of them fathom the their findings. I promise to give you a rep on this one. Give me some time. I am still doing an assignement for Death and TM on RCC and Gobal politics and Spirit,faith and law respectively.

[Eden_2005]

isnt that just like the death sentence except a lil more personal.... i would much rather be the one to kill someone that killed my father or family then some random prison doctor do it. Im not for the death sentence but if it came down to it, i would rather be the one doing it than anyone else b/c the criminal is paying for crimes he commited against me first then crimes he commited against society.
Eden

[teejay]

>A life for a life is how it should be according to the Shari'a
>but there are many things that are overlooked here.

So what happened in somali was a barter trade? I suppose some trade regulations were by passed.

>These actions were NOT done in accordance to the Shari'a but
>you have teejay here who is jumping in joy because he thinks
>he has found a bit more fuel for the fire he is kindling (his
>efforts to discredit Islam and hope to win some brownie-points
>in his quest to preach his faith). The man went as far as
>claiming that Islam was started by Catholics, not even the
>most audacious Orientalists like Dante could dream of making
>such silly utterances.

If this could make me Dante then am one. But then again why would I want to be Dante while I have my niche to curve. In future coach some coachling will utter something like, even teejay dared not say that. What Dante?

I can not be credited with discrediting what discredits itself. May I take a back sit on this. I hate to think like you think. That you are here to earn points.

[Coach]

teejay,

>>A life for a life is how it should be according to the
>Shari'a
>>but there are many things that are overlooked here.
>
>So what happened in somali was a barter trade? I suppose some
>trade regulations were by passed.

No, the was no recognised court in the country and correct procedures were not followed. If you hack to death the man who slain your father, have you gotten justice? No! There is a legal procedure and laws to be followed, a fair trial to be held etc. A stunt like the one above is not justice!


>If this could make me Dante then am one. But then again why
>would I want to be Dante while I have my niche to curve. In
>future coach some coachling will utter something like, even
>teejay dared not say that. What Dante?
>
>I can not be credited with discrediting what discredits
>itself. May I take a back sit on this. I hate to think like
>you think. That you are here to earn points.

What points? I am not here to please any mortal mate. My comments were aimed at the conclusions you reached. You seem to know nothing about Shari'a, thisis what you said thinking that Shari'a supporsts such killings, read below...



>Once gain ATlian what I have always said has been proved
>right. That there is is no God is Islam world but Allah is a
>fact.

>So the sharia law is meant ot please humans. We all that self
>is the most corrupt thing. When one always desires to satisfy
>sel,f they are constantly tempting evil, which is not slack to
>honour their requests.
>
>I see what moslem (some in here)mean when they talk of the
>peace that Islam gives them
>
>ATlian you did not warn me. Were those picks from a movie or
>real life situation? How crude. These people really need to
>Know christ and stop living under sin unbelief. When Christ is
>in you, then you know that Vengeance is God's. Moreover you
>will heap hot coal on your enemy's head by extending love and
>affection to them.
>
>Unfortunately the religion of Allah does not seem to bother
>with Love.
>
>TRUELY SAVAGE JUSTICE
>

It would be savage if that was Shari'a, but it is not! So are you taking back what you said? Do you wish to speak out of your whims instead of facts?










"The ink of the scholar is more sacred than the blood of the martyr" Prophet Muhammad PBUH

[Playeress]

That is very DISTURBING!!

is this really what Sharia law sanctions??? can a muslim verify this please?????

Very very disturbing


But then, like someone mentioned, this is not too different from the death penalty....just more gruesome, and well, like another mentioned "personal"

I think that boy will be psychologically affected..PERMANENTLY!! what he did wasnt healthy.

And this is why I'm against any form of "Street justice", I dont even agree with the death penalty. What does killing someone achieve?? If someoene murdered someone dear to me, I'd rather he spent the rest of his life behind bars.......then he'd have to live with the mental reminder of what he did. I believe in giving people chances......people CHANGE!!

I've witnessed too manny cruel acts of mob justice back in kenya...for petty theft. Why?? I've seen a child get beaten to death for stealing two cobs of maize! Cudnt eat for dayz!!! I was robbed one time in town, I didnt even bother screaming for help....I let the brother go, knowing how blood-thirsty some kenyans are. Its sad.