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06-03-2006, 01:50 AM
This question is simple who wrote the bible?
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RE: Who wrote the bible? -
06-03-2006, 03:28 AM
"Although there is no direct internal evidence of authorship, it was the unanimous testimony of the early church that this Gospel was written by John Mark. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1488)"
So, in reality, we don't really know whether Mark was the sole author of this Gospel or not. And since The New Testament wasn't even documented on paper until 150-300 years (depending on what Christian you talk to) after Jesus, then how are we to know for sure that the current "Gospel of Mark" wasn't written by some pro of Mark?
The above text reads: "The most reliable early manuscript and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20."
Now my concern to this corruption and 'answer-the-problem-away' statement is that what are those so-called "reliable early manuscript(s)" and who are the "ancient witnesses"?
According to the early Christians' manuscripts, Jesus never got crucified, and trinity is a lie. The so-called "gospel of Mark", along with all of the "gospels" of the NT, were written by third-party narration. People wrote on the tongue of Jesus' Disciples those books. They are neither original nor are the Pure Word of GOD Almighty.
If the "gospel of Mark" was indeed Divine and from GOD Almighty, then we wouldn't have this corruption, that they're admitting above, in it.
I hope you see the real danger in making these assumptions when you are willing to DIE for the fact that such Gospel is the actual True Word of GOD Almighty!
Further regarding this Gospel, we read the following commentary about Mark 16:9-20:
"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark. His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"
This quote raises a very serious issue here. First of all, as we've seen above in the first quote, we have no evidence that proves that John Mark was the sole author of this so called "Gospel". Second of all, we see that this Gospel has some serious problems/suspicions in it. The issue of Mark 16:9-20 is a scary one, because many Christian cults today use poisonous snakes in their worship and end up dying.
Removing Mark 16:9-20 is quite appreciated by me personally (to be quite honest with you), because it prevents people from dying from snake bites. But however, the serious issue of man's corruption of the Bible remains.
We can be absolutely certain now that the above quotes prove without a doubt that the Bible is doubtful. The quote "or its original ending has been lost" proves that what we call today "Gospels" were not written by their original authors such as Mark, John, Matthew, etc... It proves that the Gospel had been tampered with by man. Let alone considering it as the True Living Words of GOD Almighty.
If John Mark wasn't the one who wrote Mark 16:9-20, then who did? And how can you prove the ownership of the other person? Let alone proving that it was GOD Almighty's Revelation. And as we saw in the first quote above, we don't even know that John Mark was indeed the one who wrote the so called "Gospel of Mark".
To say the least in our case here, we now have enough evidence to discard the entire Gospel of Mark from the Bible, because you can't take bits and pieces of it and say some of it belongs to him and some of it doesn't! Let alone considering the entire corrupted Gospel as the True Living Word of GOD Almighty, which is a complete blasphemy.
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RE: Who wrote the bible? -
06-05-2006, 04:51 AM
the question might be simple but the answer aint always as simple as the question. Isnt the Bible a collection of writtings by a whole bunch of pplz, Matthew , Mark , Luke and John were just a part. I think the Bible was a way of pplz putting down the events that happened to them so that we would not repeat the actions or so that we would know what to do in certain situations making it more of a guideline then what pplz make it to be. yeah its probably been tampered with but its still a good book for some guidleines and stories just like the Koran and many other books including none religious. Do u think who wrote the bible affects ur religion or ur faith?? What if u found out say a non beleiver wrote it as an account of pplz lives would that make u change ur view of xianity??
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RE: Who wrote the bible? -
06-06-2006, 12:54 AM
>This question is simple who wrote the bible?
When you study the 'who wrote' the Bible .......you find that it stands alone among all other books. It is unique, edifferent from all othersf in the following ways (plus a multitude more):
1. UNIQUE IN ITS CONTINUITY
The Bible is the only book that was:-
A) Written over about a 1500 yr span
B) Written by more than 40 authors from every walk of life, including Kings, Military leaders, Peasants, Fishermen, Tax collectors, Shepherds, Statesmen, Poets, Musicians and scholars.
C) Written in different Places: Wilderness, Dungeon, and Palace, Prison walls, while traveling, in exile.
D) Written at different times: War and sacrifice, Peace and prosperity.
E) Written during different moods: Heights of Joy, depths of sorrow and despair, times of certainty and conviction, days of confusion and doubt.
F) Written on three continents: Asia, Africa and Europe
G) Written in three languages: Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek.
H) Written in a wide variety of Literary styles, including poetry, historical narrative, song, romance, biography, law, prophecy etc
I) The Bible addresses hundreds of subjects that cause man to respond either by opposing opinion or acceptance.
J) In spite of its diversity, the Bible presents a single unfolding story- Godfs redemption of human beings
K) Among all people described in the Bible, the leading character throughout is the one true, living God made know through Jesus Christ.
2. UNIQUE IN ITS CIRCULATION
The number of Bibles (entirely or selected portions) sold reaches into billions. Yes, Billions.
3. UNIQUE IN ITS TRANSLATION
Since 250 B.C. when the Hebrew Old Testament was translated into Greek, the Bible has now been translated into more than 2,200 languages
4. UNIQUE IN ITS SURVIVAL
a) Through time: - Compared to other ancient writings, the Bible has more manuscript evidence to support it than any other.
b) Through persecution: - Many have tried to burn it, ban it, and eoutlawf it from the days of Roman emperors to present-day communist-dominated countries But the Bible has withstood the vicious attacks.
c) Through criticism: - For 1800yrs people have been refuting and trying to overthrow the Bible, and yet it stands today as solid as a rock.
5. UNIQUE IN ITS TEACHING
a) Prophecy: - Even if classical Greek and Latin literature PLUS other religions (name withheld) use the words Prophets and Prophecy, NOWHERE can we find any real specific prophecy of a great historical event to come in the distant future, nor any prophecy of a savior to arise in human race c.
b) History: - 1st Samuel through 2 chronicles presents approximately 500yrs of history. Simply, no parallel even among Greeks
c) Character: - The Bible is not such a book a man would write if he could, or could write if he would. The Bible deals very frankly with the sins of its characters, even when these sins reflect badly on Godfs chosen people, leaders and Bible writers themselves. The Bible as a book focuses on reality and not fantasy.
6. UNIQUE IN ITS INFLUENCE ON LITERATURE
Jesus of Nazareth, without money and arms, conquered more millions than Alexander, Caesar, Mohammed and Napoleon;
Without science and learning, He shed more light on things human and divine than all philosophers and scholars combined
Without the eloquence of school, He spoke such words of life as were never spoken before or since, and produced effects that lie beyond the reach of orator or poet;
Without writing a single line, He set more pens in motion
7. UNIQUE IN ITS INFLUNCE ON CIVILIZATION
No great moral or religious work in the world exceeds the depth of morality in the principle of Christian love, and none has a more spiritual concept than the Biblical view of God.
The centuries themselves are measured from the birth of Jesus of Nazareth.
(Ref. New Evidence that requires a Verdict)
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RE: Man wrote the bible -
06-06-2006, 11:44 AM
In short, TM is telling you that the bible was written by man.
I hope you weren't looking to find names, wajibu.
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RE: Who wrote the bible? -
06-06-2006, 12:54 PM
Early christians and Jews wrote what they experienced. Some of these writings were then selected and compiled into the bible. Essentially, regular pple wrote the bible.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/
I've always wondered why some of the writings were not included into the bible. Could they have been contradictions to what way the prevailing dogma.
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RE: Man wrote the bible -
06-06-2006, 12:55 PM
God made nature----->Nature made man----->man made bible
~ An essay should be like a woman's skirt.Long enough to cover the material,but short enough to create interest~
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RE: Who wrote the bible? -
06-06-2006, 10:21 PM
>I've always wondered why some of the writings were not
>included into the bible. Could they have been contradictions
>to what way the prevailing dogma.
Basically atleast five principles were used to guide on the recognition and colloction of truely divinely inspired books
1. Was the book written by a prophet of God? If it was written by a spokesman for God, then it was the Word of God.
2. Was the writer confirmed by acts of God? frequenty miracles seperated the true prophets from false ones.
Moses, Elijah .....all the way through the book of Acts
3. Did the message tell the truth about God? Since God can not contradict Himself neither can he utter false claims .......hence no book with false claims can be the Word of God.
4. Does it come with the power of God? Since the early Christians (even today) strongly believed the Word of God to be LIVING and ACTIVE, and consequently ougth to have a TRANSFORMING force for edification and evngelism. If the message of a book didnt effect or didnt have power to change a life ...then God was not behind it.
5. Was it already accepted by the people of God? eg Peter acknowledges paul's writtings, The Thessalonians accepting Paul's....etc
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