[dadyamaru]

>Spairo aka Dadyamaru and the rest of your faiths,
>
>Kindly answer me why Kenyans have to die in fights between
>yourselves(moslems) and Americans/Israelis.
>
>Please refer to the 98 Nairobi bomblast and Kikambala.
>
>I may not be an extremist like Americanized, but until you can
>tell me why those Kenyans who were minding their own business
>got killed or maimed for life, I think I will go with
>Americanized that Islam or whatever you worship is total
>bull.


@mahatma
1rst i dont knw how i shud put this into ur heavy heady, inaonekana wewe ni wale watu wakusumbuwa walimu sanaa. hamuelewi . I told u am Amaru not Spairo...we r 2 diff p/ple.
Now to ur question.
It ws unfortunate that our kenyans died in 98 bombings but accordin to the way it ws planned, its only the American embassy ws sapoz to b lifted upside down but some mistakes happend, timing mistakes coz the bombs were sapoz to go off simultaneously together with TZ.

The two guys who were in a pick-up which ws sapoz to b parked at the basement delayed.
The guards at the embassy were suspicious when they saw the pick carrying a laggage patrolling several times n they raised an alarm.
Since the bombers were on a mission, n after discovering the whole thing has been blown out they press the bomb button outside the Embassy gate. Te rest is history.

This one for kikambala, they targetted Israelis.
There ws a group of israelis leavin kenya n another group comin.
The plane ws carryin only Israelis n in the hotel most of the occupants were Israelis.
Again the thing didnt go according to the way it ws planned.
The bomb were sapoz to xplode simultaneously, in the hotel n the one targetting the plane.

To add onto this...Osama said he has no regrets on 98 bombing.
He said its loves americans, actually they worship Americans n they have copied n immitated everything frm Americans, in short they are also americans coz if they dress,eat, live like them wots the diff.

[Americanized]

Rave and rant all you want! Moslems are like bugs on America's windshield! Osama will soon occupy his rightful place, splattered on our windshield.

[Americanized]

When they catch Osama, they should cut off his genitals and stuff them in his mouth and then take pictures for world wide distribution!

[spairo]

>When they catch Osama, they should cut off his genitals and
>stuff them in his mouth and then take pictures for world wide
>distribution!


Ohhh please….now this is so kiddish, am out of here!

[dadyamaru]

@americanised...go ahead n catch Osama n Act ur words.

Dont talk bcoz u want to say something...talk bcoz u ave something to say

[Kida_lipo]

@Spairo/Dadyamaru ....
Relax the body. This is what you wrote---

<<<<Now that I sound silly, if the bible is the one which said Israel home is the current site, then that “holy” book has changed again! Amazing how “god” can change an already written book…. “Real miracle indeed!”
So those confused Israelis who were lost in the desert for 40 years and still lost, got their home finally? read your bible brother, the “promised land” promise has not been fulfilled and I don’t think the land is Palestine, in Palestine there is no “milk and honey” just blood and sweat, US should look for the said land else where, and settle the guys who are still lost 2000 plus years now!
The issue of Golder Meyer was just to show you, who were the brains behind Israel occupation not to belittle your brilliant big brains.>>>

Spairo...its always correct to say it was the British who created Palestine as a state. In short, much of the world's political structure stems from European colonialism.The word "political" is underscored because the state is always a politico-legal category. It is the Western media that confuse the state with the nation, which is only an ethno-linguistic category.

That said, Palestine may not have existed as a state, but it has always been there as a nation. The modern Palestinians are the major descendants of the Israelites who overran Canaan around 1250 BC. Harassed by the native Canaanites and newcomers called Philistines, the Israelites never succeeded in forming a united state till around 1070 BC under Saul and then David.

On Solomon's death, around 900 BC, a deep schism split the kingdom in two. With 10 tribes, the northern one, based at Shomron ("little Sumer", Greek: "Samaria"), retained the name "Israel". Composed only of Judah and Benjamin and seated at Jerusalem, the southern one was called Judah. In 722 BC Assyria destroyed the northern kingdom and the 10 tribes "got lost".

Now, these guyz merely merged with the Assyrians, the native Canaanites and the Philistines to produce what are known as Samaritans. But it was the Pelest ("Philistines") of Crete, arriving in Gaza just before Joshua, who gave their name to the whole mix.
The Greeks called it Filistia, the Romans Palaestine. In 586 BC, the Babylonians invaded the southern kingdom, taking Judah's entire elite to exile across the Euphrates. It is Judah's exiles who emerge as "Jews", the English corruption of Greek Ioudaios and Latin Judaeus.
It is among them that Ezra and the Soferim ("Scribes") produce the Pentateuch, the Five Books attributed retroactively to Moses. Under Zerubbabel and Nehemiah - after Babylon itself had fallen to Persia - they return to Judah with a refurbished monotheism totally unknown to the Samaritans.

What we read in the Jewish Bible is just that - an account of Judah (the Jews), not of Israel (the Palestinians). It is Judah (or Judaeans) - not Israel - that we meet with in the New Testament. Rome captures it in 63 BC.

And it is Roman tyranny that produces the christic rebellion that culminates in the 70 AD crisis, in which Titus reduced Jerusalem, Jotapata, Qumran and Masada to ashes. Another rebellion was crushed in 132, after which Judah was scattered throughout the world and, as an ethnicity, disappears from history. But, as a religion, Judah (Jewry) remains active everywhere. In Europe, it garners converts among many non-Semitic groups.

In The Desceration of Judaism in Our Time, Moshe Menuhin, still another Jew, corroborates it. But it remains true that "Jew" is derived from "Judah" and that originally it denoted blood, not a religion.

This was what Caucasian Jews exploited in the 19th century to create the Zionists' claim that they were Semitic and that the horrendous 2,000-year crimes Europe committed against them were "anti-Semitic" acts. Today, Zionists have an easy stock reply to anybody who reminds that claim or who criticises Israel: "anti-Semitic".
Even the Palestinian struggle against these fraudulent "Semites" is condemned as "anti-Semitic". How the Palestinians - who eventually entered the Arab melting pot - can be "anti-Semitic" when the Arabs are the only extant Semites defies logic.

So, Spairo - get off that high horse you are riding and come into terms with reality!

[cinnoman]

It's quite unfortunate the way violence and terror have featured more frequently in the religion of Islam (or maybe it's just the same). Still, there has got to be a better way to say what you're saying. I point to the aforementioned World Trade Center. In 01, judging from America's reaction, you'd have thought something substantial had been achieved for Islam. However, looking at the country now, they seem to have put the horror of the attacks behind them and moved on. If bin Laden wanted to break the American spirit, he failed. If his main objective was to tear down one of America's most iconic monuments and take a good number of lives in the process, then he achieved that - but I doubt that's all he wanted. There really has got to be a better, more creative way to air your grievances. I truly can understand that there are a great number of Muslim faithful who have been downtrodden and treated like unutterable garbage for their life. But flying a plane into a building? Nobody respects you for that...

[Americanized]

>>When they catch Osama, they should cut off his genitals and
>>stuff them in his mouth and then take pictures for world
>wide
>>distribution!
>
>
>Ohhh please….now this is so kiddish, am out of here!
>


Maybe they should just lock him up in San Quentin Prison and let him be sodomized by inmateds for the rest of his life!

[dadyamaru]

Again @ americanised u seem short of knowledge regarding the palestine/jews conflict.
Whatever u said is nothing but lies n propaganda.
Go read "The bitter Harvest" so that next time u open ur mouth abt Palestine/jews something sensible comes out instead of verbal diarrhoea.

[spairo]

@CINNOMAN
Am a Muslim and I talk as a Muslim....you! are you an American? The war in this case is between Americans and Muslims, there ideology.
Osama dint attack a church or a temple, he attack World trade center which symbolise America economic ideology, Pentagon which symbolise America Military mighty and the third plane was to attack White House which is a symbol of America political System.
Now with all the hulabaloo, whiniging and wailing, what have you lost as a Black Christian? Where did Osama pinch you? US dont value and will never value blacks.