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RE: IS JESUS FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY? -
05-06-2006, 11:08 AM
>@Spairo,
>With all due respect, accord the Christians and their faith
>some respect. Words and phrases like..."so God love the world
>blah blah blah thing? We know this unfounded theory. Who
>started this blah blah rubbish? Who said people should sing in
>such a loud noise with guitars for God to know? Who wrote the
>bible? Why was the bible not written during Jesus life? Why
>was it written hundred years after his purported death?"
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>The same respect as you would like them to accord Islam though
>they may not believe in it. Be patient even with those who
>don't see things in the same way as you. Still you can point
>out if they wander from the topic.
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> http://www.mashada.com/photos/data/5...ne_malcolm.JPG
@KINENE WA KARANI
With all due respect to many Christian believers
..The Blah blah thing was not meant to hurt anybody feeling spiritually or emotionally, I just wanted to steer the topic on its truck not outside it.
RESPECT to all.
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RE: IS JESUS FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY? -
05-06-2006, 11:19 AM
@Spairo,
Point taken. May the discussion continue. Have you had a look at the link provided by Reggae woic? Interesting stuff...
http://www.mashada.com/photos/data/5...ne_malcolm.JPG
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RE: IS JESUS FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY? -
05-07-2006, 03:46 AM
@Spairo
Hey? I don't take spirituality lightly. I believe in Jesus and I am fuelled by one thing only; my faith. However I and a lot of Mashadites refuse to abide by the "thou shall not question!" commandement.
The bible was engineered by Constantine and it was a political move. Xmas was the birthday of the ancient god Mithra, Ashtoreth, Diana and Isis are ancient demons worshipped as the queen of heaven, or the mother of god ... whom do catholics ask to pray for them? Sunday was the day of Benediction for the Roman gods, the Gnostics began the ritual of baptism and the cross was a symbol of freedom 70 years before Jesus was born. I believe you've heard of the gladiator Spartacus?. If we discuss ancient religions and how Christianity has adopted a lot of them, we'd be here the whole day.
You asked me to read widely, I try to my friend, how about you give me solid arguments - look at Christianity again and see how many pagan and even demonic rituals have been thrown in. There is nothing wrong with stepping out of the box.
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RE: IS JESUS FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY? -
05-07-2006, 08:39 AM
>@Spairo
>
>Hey? I don't take spirituality lightly. I believe in Jesus
>and I am fuelled by one thing only; my faith. However I and a
>lot of Mashadites refuse to abide by the "thou shall not
>question!" commandement.
>
>The bible was engineered by Constantine and it was a political
>move. Xmas was the birthday of the ancient god Mithra,
>Ashtoreth, Diana and Isis are ancient demons worshipped as the
>queen of heaven, or the mother of god ... whom do catholics
>ask to pray for them? Sunday was the day of Benediction for
>the Roman gods, the Gnostics began the ritual of baptism and
>the cross was a symbol of freedom 70 years before Jesus was
>born. I believe you've heard of the gladiator Spartacus?. If
>we discuss ancient religions and how Christianity has adopted
>a lot of them, we'd be here the whole day.
>
>You asked me to read widely, I try to my friend, how about you
>give me solid arguments - look at Christianity again and see
>how many pagan and even demonic rituals have been thrown in.
>There is nothing wrong with stepping out of the box.
>
>One
I have a feeling you could be more knowledgeable on the history of Christianity with all the facts. What am suggesting is equally to read about the origin and practise of Islam and if need be Judaism.
Though I could sound biased to you, I think Islam has many answer to some Christian religion queries and surprising you will even find some of the current happenings concerning bible and some religion practise; that is why I said you may find me biased, but just dont close the door of reasoning, just approach the whole issue with an open mind, like Kinene
.thats healthy discussion and the essence of discussion. So the truth is known?
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RE: IS JESUS FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY? -
05-07-2006, 10:22 AM
Mohammed was too lazy to start his own religion so he just copied stuff from the Jews, and Christians, and added in some hallucinations he called visions (that nobody was able to verify so we have to take his word for it), and then belittled the same jewish and christian prophets he borrowed so heavily from, and declaring himself the Head Honcho. Christianity is based on thousands of years of prophecy that came to be fulfilled in Jesus Christ. You can't say the same about Mohammed. Islam is a fake, manufactured religion! Seriously, if Mohammed lived today, there would probably be a good case to sue him for plagiarism and copyright infringement.
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RE: IS JESUS FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY? -
05-07-2006, 11:49 AM
>Mohammed was too lazy to start his own religion so he just
>copied stuff from the Jews, and Christians, and added in some
>hallucinations he called visions (that nobody was able to
>verify so we have to take his word for it), and then belittled
>the same jewish and christian prophets he borrowed so heavily
>from, and declaring himself the Head Honcho. Christianity is
>based on thousands of years of prophecy that came to be
>fulfilled in Jesus Christ. You can't say the same about
>Mohammed. Islam is a fake, manufactured religion! Seriously,
>if Mohammed lived today, there would probably be a good case
>to sue him for plagiarism and copyright infringement.
I dont know what is wrong with you, why cant you just positively contribute, on topic of Christianity your putting Islam and Mohammed, why cant you have respect for once?
Just read the thread above and discuss its content negative or positive dont just blubber.
Hey why cant you argue your case as a normal human being? Why soo much hatred against Islam?
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RE: IS JESUS FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY? -
05-07-2006, 12:06 PM
>>Mohammed was too lazy to start his own religion so he just
>>copied stuff from the Jews, and Christians, and added in
>some
>>hallucinations he called visions (that nobody was able to
>>verify so we have to take his word for it), and then
>belittled
>>the same jewish and christian prophets he borrowed so
>heavily
>>from, and declaring himself the Head Honcho. Christianity is
>>based on thousands of years of prophecy that came to be
>>fulfilled in Jesus Christ. You can't say the same about
>>Mohammed. Islam is a fake, manufactured religion! Seriously,
>>if Mohammed lived today, there would probably be a good case
>>to sue him for plagiarism and copyright infringement.
>
>I dont know what is wrong with you, why cant you just
>positively contribute, on topic of Christianity your putting
>Islam and Mohammed, why cant you have respect for once?
>Just read the thread above and discuss its content negative or
>positive dont just blubber.
>Hey why cant you argue your case as a normal human being? Why
>soo much hatred against Islam?
>
>
When Osama killed my countrymen on '98 and Moslems supported OBl istead of condemning such barbarous actions, that's when the lines were drawn!
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RE: IS JESUS FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY? -
05-08-2006, 09:53 AM
>>>Mohammed was too lazy to start his own religion so he just
>>>copied stuff from the Jews, and Christians, and added in
>>some
>>>hallucinations he called visions (that nobody was able to
>>>verify so we have to take his word for it), and then
>>belittled
>>>the same jewish and christian prophets he borrowed so
>>heavily
>>>from, and declaring himself the Head Honcho. Christianity
>is
>>>based on thousands of years of prophecy that came to be
>>>fulfilled in Jesus Christ. You can't say the same about
>>>Mohammed. Islam is a fake, manufactured religion!
>Seriously,
>>>if Mohammed lived today, there would probably be a good
>case
>>>to sue him for plagiarism and copyright infringement.
>>
>>I dont know what is wrong with you, why cant you just
>>positively contribute, on topic of Christianity your putting
>>Islam and Mohammed, why cant you have respect for once?
>>Just read the thread above and discuss its content negative
>or
>>positive dont just blubber.
>>Hey why cant you argue your case as a normal human being?
>Why
>>soo much hatred against Islam?
>>
>>
>When Osama killed my countrymen on '98 and Moslems supported
>OBl istead of condemning such barbarous actions, that's when
>the lines were drawn!
So you think Americanised can revenge for those killed people against Osama? How old are you? I real think you have some mental problem
your so thick!
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RE: IS JESUS FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY? -
05-08-2006, 03:39 PM
>>>>Mohammed was too lazy to start his own religion so he
>just
>>>>copied stuff from the Jews, and Christians, and added in
>>>some
>>>>hallucinations he called visions (that nobody was able to
>>>>verify so we have to take his word for it), and then
>>>belittled
>>>>the same jewish and christian prophets he borrowed so
>>>heavily
>>>>from, and declaring himself the Head Honcho. Christianity
>>is
>>>>based on thousands of years of prophecy that came to be
>>>>fulfilled in Jesus Christ. You can't say the same about
>>>>Mohammed. Islam is a fake, manufactured religion!
>>Seriously,
>>>>if Mohammed lived today, there would probably be a good
>>case
>>>>to sue him for plagiarism and copyright infringement.
>>>
>>>I dont know what is wrong with you, why cant you just
>>>positively contribute, on topic of Christianity your
>putting
>>>Islam and Mohammed, why cant you have respect for once?
>>>Just read the thread above and discuss its content negative
>>or
>>>positive dont just blubber.
>>>Hey why cant you argue your case as a normal human being?
>>Why
>>>soo much hatred against Islam?
>>>
>>>
>>When Osama killed my countrymen on '98 and Moslems supported
>>OBl istead of condemning such barbarous actions, that's when
>>the lines were drawn!
>
>
>So you think Americanised can revenge for those killed people
>against Osama? How old are you? I real think you have some
>mental problem
your so thick!
>
Unless, and until, I get an apology from Spairo and Coach, on behalf of their fellow Moslems, for the abhorable display of betrayal by Kenyan Moslems who supported the murder of their own fellow citizens, I will not let up! You can call me anything you want, but you know deep down that it was wrong what your beloved Moslems did. Last I heard, treason was a capital punishment. Anybody who marched in the streets in support of Osama should have been rounded up and put on trial for treason!
You guys make me sick! You have no love for your own people or your own country. All you think about is Islam, even when fellow Moslem are attacking your own country! If you love the Middle East so much, you need to ship out pronto and go live with your fellow jihadists!
If you don't show love for your country, you are lower than vermin!
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