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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-24-2006, 07:07 AM
If Muslims took a tolerant and non violent stance to any challenging opinion, only then would surprise me and earn my respect ... and probably that of the world at large.
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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-24-2006, 11:15 AM
I think Islam is becoming increasingly intolerant and violent. I am not convinced that the intentions of Islam come in Peace. Why should Jihad be the first resort when disparities arise? Why is everyone a heretic for challenging Islamic thought and scripture?
Christian brothers and sisters, do not fret for the Good book says in Mark 13:11
"But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost".
Mark 13:13 continues:
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved".
Mark 13:33 is a wake up call. It really jolted my senses. It says:
"Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is".
Brethren, ye that have been called to the flock of Jesus Christ, it is time for us to turn away from our wicked ways and seek the face of our Lord Jesus Christ. We must seek forgiveness, we must seek to make our hearts pure that the Lord will nourish and prepare us for his Second Coming.
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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-24-2006, 11:16 AM
@Teammanager
I must admit i love your attitude.Especially the way you defend Christianity.
Did you know that you might,or rather are chating with sons or grandchildren of the very people who brought christianity to Kenya(Africa).They might know something that you don't know about this religion.This reminds me of what Malcom X once said,"house niggaz will defend the house more than the owner".
~ An essay should be like a woman's skirt.Long enough to cover the material,but short enough to create interest~
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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-24-2006, 12:06 PM
ISLAM DOESNT CRIMINALISE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS...EVERYONE IS ALLOWED TO WORSHIP WHOEVER OR WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE
THE CLERICS WHO SENTENCED THIS GUY DONT SPEAK FOR A BILLION MUSLIMS
LEARN TO SEPARATE CULTURE, AND POLITICS FROM ISLAM'
KEEP IT REAL GUYS
ISLAM IS HERE TO STAY
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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-26-2006, 02:57 AM
>Next time I post I will change my signature.
>
>I think you are mistaken concerning the chain of event. Coach
>posted a whole day after me. Please check again ......and
>prove that one of us is either mistaken or simply being
>dishonest.
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>I respect you!
Thank you! I appreciate the change in the signature...You have earned more of my respect.
As for the chain of events. I always do my research before stating a point. This board was posted Fri Mar-24-06 04:15 PM and Coach posted his on Thu Mar-23-06 02:29 PM...I am assuming in dishonesty and mistakes you are not talking about me then??
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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-26-2006, 06:39 PM
>As for the chain of events. I always do my research before
>stating a point. This board was posted Fri Mar-24-06 04:15 PM
>and Coach posted his on Thu Mar-23-06 02:29 PM...I am assuming
>in dishonesty and mistakes you are not talking about me
>then??
Sorry for 'pushing-on' this not-so-important point ......please recheck the 'times' again and you will realise that they are not consistent. Coach posted the same article in this posting ..... and it is recorded are reply no. 4.
Secondly, most of the subsequent comments in this posting are 'loged-in' as having been posted earlier.......????
My point ..... contrary to your thinking, Coach posted his article AFTER and not BEFORE.....please re-check.
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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-27-2006, 02:47 AM
Good news!
Afghan Court Drops Christian Convert Case By DANIEL COONEY, Associated Press Writer
KABUL, Afghanistan - A court on Sunday dismissed the case against an Afghan man facing possible execution for converting from Islam to Christianity, officials said, paving the way for his release.
.......BUT lets continue to PRAY for his safety.....
The court's decision was sure to anger at least some of the clerics who have strongly demanded that authorities enforce a provision in the country's Islamic-based laws calling for the execution of Muslims who abandon the faith.
"There will be big protests across Afghanistan," said Faiez Mohammed, a Sunni Muslim leader in the northern city of Kunduz. "This has shamed Afghanistan in the eyes of other Muslim countries."
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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-27-2006, 05:42 PM
I cant really blame Islam. I blame the people. These kind of things dont happen in Africa. I wonder why in Arabian countries. Are the people that primitive? Why do they want to control individuals's actions that have no impact on other people's lives so much?
Knowledge by hand and mind
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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-27-2006, 05:53 PM
>I cant really blame Islam. I blame the people. These kind of
>things dont happen in Africa. I wonder why in Arabian
>countries.
What about Nigeria?
I don't think you can give Islam a free pass on this one. All those radicals doing their thing are basing their actions on the Koran and Hadiths. As much as Coach and Mbajuni try to defend Islam and exonerate it from all the actions of it's more fanatical followers, I have to say that most of the culpability for those radicals' actions has to be placed on the religion of Islam.
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RE: Afghan on trial for Christianity -
03-27-2006, 09:17 PM
>I don't think you can give Islam a free pass on this one. All
>those radicals doing their thing are basing their actions on
>the Koran and Hadiths. As much as Coach and Mbajuni try to
>defend Islam and exonerate it from all the actions of it's
>more fanatical followers, I have to say that most of the
>culpability for those radicals' actions has to be placed on
>the religion of Islam.
Good point. As I was telling coach in another thread. You may claim that the religion is one of piece and I accept and understand your point. But there is something inherently wrong with a religion who's apparent 'message of peace' can be so easily misconstrued. The reality is that you cannot claim that all these violent fundamentalists are complete lunatics who go entirely against all the tenets of Islam, considering the fact that they use the Same Koran you use to back up their beliefs and actiions. Now, untill it's author can come and clarify all ambiguity (which I think we can agree won't be happening any time soon) both positions are perfectly valid. Now again, coach, my simple concern, is that there is obviously something wrong with a religion, that can so easily and by so many be interpretated in such a violent light.
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