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Default A prayer for tm - 03-12-2006, 06:57 AM

Let us all say a prayer for tm as he continues to do his work and he may use his opportunity to change the unbelievers to believers.

Father i thank you Lord for who you are. We give you praise and worship. We won't be here if it wasn't your will. I pray for your faithful servant,tm for strength and wisdom. Lord help him to convince your lost children to come back to you. We believe in miracles and now we pray that you may bless tm. In Jesus name, Amen.
 
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Default RE: A prayer for tm - 03-12-2006, 07:57 AM

hey'all

In the spirit of interfaith collaboration perhaps we need others to be prayed for as well??

Lord God, please let TM, our resident god carry on with his good work. Nothing could be more righteous than a christian brother seeking enlightenment for humanity. And because all things are possible with Jesus let 6/6/06 be the date that ATLian(hope u don mind??) finally converts. Please God let TM perform his miracle on mashada that we may all be blessed with sanity and clarity. Don't let us down God, I know you have heard us and an all knowing God always answers. Thank you lord.

Oh Great Allah (Pbuh) and MooHamMad(even more Pbuh) please let our resident imams Coach and Mbajuni (are women allowed Allah??) carry on the good work of soliciting reverts through your one and only final kooran. Please let all of us see the sanity of enforcing sharia law and wearing hijabs since the beauty you created cannot be shown to just anyone. Please get rid of all infidels and bring jihad upon the unbelievers and especially the islamophobes since they may actually reveal the real truth about us and expose us. We have been victims Oh merciful allah. Death to the great satan Amriqa.

Oh great Nothing, please ensure friday comes on time so that ATlian & Co. can uncork the great waters of your creation at the local joint. Oh nothing, Bless us with more knowledge to face the likes of TM and Coach. Also, Oh great Nothing, please sort out this God who wrecks havoc on innocents, kills children and does nothing to clean up the mess he leaves behind.

Dear God, please let everyone, TM,Coach,Mbajuni, ATlian, Nefertiti (I liked your long post) et all question who they really are in every action they take and exemplify their conduct by moral means and not religious etiquette (dogma). From us Humanists.

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Default RE: A prayer for tm - 03-12-2006, 10:41 AM

Amen, and amen to that, arsenal.
 
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Default RE: A prayer for tm - 03-13-2006, 01:31 AM

@arsenal2005

Thanks for the prayers ..... lakini remember its only the Holy Spirit that can convict people of SIN and move them towards REPETANCE.

BUT I agree with you ..... anything is possible with God.
 
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Default RE: A prayer for tm - 03-13-2006, 03:25 AM

okay, I don't know if you should be calling him a 'resident god'
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Default RE: A prayer for tm - 03-13-2006, 09:24 AM

>Oh Great Allah (Pbuh) and MooHamMad(even more Pbuh) please let
>our resident imams Coach and Mbajuni (are women allowed
>Allah??) carry on the good work of soliciting reverts through
>your one and only final kooran. Please let all of us see the
>sanity of enforcing sharia law and wearing hijabs since the
>beauty you created cannot be shown to just anyone. Please get
>rid of all infidels and bring jihad upon the unbelievers and
>especially the islamophobes since they may actually reveal the
>real truth about us and expose us. We have been victims Oh
>merciful allah. Death to the great satan Amriqa.


What a pity that you have to put your points through with a mixture of insults and lies?

The name is Muhammad/Mohamed and any insulting alterations you make to his noble name goes to show what you are all about. Islam does not call for the killing of non-believers; I thought you understood this after I explained a few times, but I guess it fits your agenda to ignore facts and run around with lies and oriental misconceptions.
 
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Default RE: A prayer for tm - 03-13-2006, 10:29 AM

Hey brother Coach,


>Islam does not call for the killing of non-believers; I
>thought you understood this after I explained a few times, but
>I guess it fits your agenda to ignore facts and run around
>with lies and oriental misconceptions.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...227014,00.html

and also look at this, sorry guys it's long...

Quran Teaches

Apostasy


2: 27 Those who break Allah's Covenant after it is ratified, and who sunder what Allah Has ordered to be joined, and do mischief on earth: These cause loss (only) to themselves.

2:39, “But those who reject Faith and belie Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein.”

3:90-91 "Verily, those who disbelieved after their Belief and then went on increasing in their disbelief - never will their repentance be accepted [because they repent only by their tongues and not from their hearts]. And they are those who are astray. Verily, those who disbelieved, and died while they were disbelievers, the (whole) earth full of gold will not be accepted from anyone of them even if they offered it as a ransom. For them is a painful torment and they will have no helpers."

4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,”

9:66, Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected Faith after ye had accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you, for that they are in sin

9:74, They swear by Allah that they said nothing (evil), but indeed they uttered blasphemy, and they did it after accepting Islam; and they meditated a plot which they were unable to carry out: this revenge of theirs was (their) only return for the bounty with which Allah and His Messenger had enriched them! If they repent, it will be best for them; but if they turn back (to their evil ways), Allah will punish them with a grievous penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: They shall have none on earth to protect or help them.

47:25,26 Those who turn back as apostates after Guidance was clearly shown to them, the Evil One has instigated them and busied them up with false hopes.

Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17:
Narrated 'Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 445:
Narrated Abu Dhar:
The Prophet said, "Gabriel said to me, 'Whoever amongst your followers die without having worshipped others besides Allah, will enter Paradise (or will not enter the (Hell) Fire)." The Prophet asked. "Even if he has committed illegal sexual intercourse or theft?" He replied, "Even then."

(Sahih Bukhari 4.260)
Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people [hypocrites] and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:

Narrated 'Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"


See also this Islamic site.

http://thetruereligion.org/apostatepunish.htm

Terror

3:151
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

8:60
And prepare against them what force you can and horses tied at the frontier, to terrorize thereby the enemy of Allah...

8:12
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Moreover Allah says of those who reject him. Because, Allah has already sentenced them to death.



Unbelievers

2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them

2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression

2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you

3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah

4:48 “Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.”

4:84, Then fight in Allah’s cause - Thou art held responsible only for thyself - and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment.

4:141, And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumphs) over the believers

5:33, The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

8:12, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

8:15-16, O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day - unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!

8:17, It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah: when thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah’s: in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself

8:60, Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.

8:65, O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers

9:5, But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.

9:3, And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.

9:14, Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,

9:23, O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.

9:28, O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque.

9:29, Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

9:39, Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.

9:73, O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.

9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an

9:123, O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.

22:9, (Disdainfully) bending his side, in order to lead (men) astray from the Path of Allah: for him there is disgrace in this life, and on the Day of Judgment We shall make him taste the Penalty of burning (Fire).

22:19-22; These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), “Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!”

25:52, So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavour.

25:68 ”Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. “(But) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him, and he will dwell therein in ignominy,-

37:22-23, “Bring ye up”, it shall be said, “The wrong-doers and their wives, and the things they worshipped- Besides Allah, and lead them to the Way to the (Fierce) Fire!

47:4, Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.

48:13 And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!

48:29, Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other.




Coach, i couldn't agree more with you on this one.....

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Default RE: A prayer for tm - 03-13-2006, 12:23 PM

sajtas,


>Hey brother Coach,
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>>Islam does not call for the killing of non-believers; I
>>thought you understood this after I explained a few times,
>but
>>I guess it fits your agenda to ignore facts and run around
>>with lies and oriental misconceptions.


PLEASE READ CAREFULLY WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED AND MY RESPONSE IN CAPITAL LETTERS!




>Quran Teaches
>
>Apostasy
>
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>2: 27 Those who break Allah's Covenant after it is ratified,
>and who sunder what Allah Has ordered to be joined, and do
>mischief on earth: These cause loss (only) to themselves.

TRUE! IT IS INDEED A LOSS FOR THEM!





>2:39, “But those who reject Faith and belie Our Signs, they
>shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein.”


TRUE! HELL DOES AWAITS THOSE WHO REJECT FAITH! THEY ARE NOT TO BE FORCED FOR THEIR PUNISHMENT AWAITS IN THE HEREAFTER.



> 3:90-91 "Verily, those who disbelieved after their Belief and
>then went on increasing in their disbelief - never will their
>repentance be accepted [because they repent only by their
>tongues and not from their hearts]. And they are those who are
>astray. Verily, those who disbelieved, and died while they
>were disbelievers, the (whole) earth full of gold will not be
>accepted from anyone of them even if they offered it as a
>ransom. For them is a painful torment and they will have no
>helpers."


TRUE! HELLFIRE AWAITS UNBELIEVERS!



>4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they
>disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose
>not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way
>of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and
>kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor
>helper from among them,”


TRUE! YOU SHOULD YDEFEND YOURSELF FROM YOUR ENEMIES OTHERWISE THEY'LL KILL YOU?



>9:66, Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected Faith after ye had
>accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others
>amongst you, for that they are in sin

TRUE! GOD WILL PUNISH THOSE WHO REJECT FAITH!




>9:74, They swear by Allah that they said nothing (evil), but
>indeed they uttered blasphemy, and they did it after accepting
>Islam; and they meditated a plot which they were unable to
>carry out: this revenge of theirs was (their) only return for
>the bounty with which Allah and His Messenger had enriched
>them! If they repent, it will be best for them; but if they
>turn back (to their evil ways), Allah will punish them with a
>grievous penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: They shall
>have none on earth to protect or help them.


INDEED! THIS GOES ON AND ON...DUDE, HAVE YOU READ THESE BEFORE YOU POSTED THEM?? THIS IS THE POSITION OF MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS AND ALSO JEWS. DO YOU FIND IT SURPRISING THAT GOD WILL PUNISH THOSE WHO REJECT HIM? DO YOU FIND IT SURPRISING THAT GOD WILL PUNISH THE SINENRS, THE IDOLATERS, THE WICKED WHO WREAK HAVOC IN THE WORLD ETC?

THE HADITHS YOU POSTED WERE ON APOSTATES WHO COMMITTED HIGH TREASON. IN MEDINA, THERE WERE SOME ENEMIES WHO ACCEPTED ISLAM, ONLY TO THEN BETRAY MUSLIMS AND HELP THE ENEMIES. THESE WERE PUNISHED BY DEATH BECAUSE THEY COMMITTED TREASON.


READ BELOW REGARDING FAITH! THIS ADRESSES THE PART YOU POSTED ABOUT "TERROR" AND USED VERSES FROM THE QURAN TO PROVE YOURL LIES.



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Quran and Hadith on Religious Persecution

No compulsion in religion

This article has two sections. The first is a brief explanation of Quranic verses that are often mistaken as instructions to persecute Non-Muslims. The second section features verses from the Quran and Hadith that vehemently insist on religious tolerance and the idea of "no compulsion in religion." God willing, Non-Muslims as well as our Muslim brothers and sisters who resort to violence, will take these verses into consideration.

Anti-Islamic people often use the following verses to justify the stereotype that Islam is a religion of violence and intolerance, which was spread by the sword. The explanations here were aided by Abdullah Yusuf Ali's commentary on the Holy Quran.

Sura 8.12 "Remember thy lord has inspired the angels with the message. Give firmness to the believers and instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite them above their necks and smite the fingertips of them."

Sura 9.5 "When the sacred months have passed, kill the idolaters whereever you find them."

Sura 47.4 "When you encounter the unbelievers, Strike off their heads. Untill you have made a wide slaughter among them tie up the remaining captives."

Sura 8 is about a BATTLE - the Battle of Badr - not just some daily affair. A battles take two side to occur. Are you under the impression that while these 'horrid' Muslims were fighting, the enemies were simply standing there like good little peaceful men?

Sura 47 was revealed during the first year of Hijrah when the Muslims were under *threat of extinction* by invasion from Makkah.

Sura 9 is interesting. Non-Muslims almost invariably quote verse 5 but leave out verse 4 and 6. Why? Because verse 4 says, "But the treatires are not dissolved with those Pagans with whom you have entered into alliance and who have you subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfill your engagements with them to the end of their term: for God Loves the righteous."

And verse 6 says, "If one among the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him so that he may hear the Word of God; and then escort him to where he can be secure."

So basically what has been done above is:

1. The background to each sura was shown. One cannot take a verse revealed for a battle and insist it is if for the daily affairs of Muslims.

2. It was shown how Non-muslims who wish to attack Islam, conveniently leave out verses before and after their quoted verse. Above, I have shown only one of the many examples.



Section II

This long list of verses from the Holy Quran and the Traditions of Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him) show that Islam at it's core and at its source is a religion of peace. Terrorists who persecute innocent people because of their faith are not welcome - their use of Islam as a scapegoat, does not make Islam what they portray it to be.
2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.

4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."

88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

60:9 Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.



The teachings of the Prophet on how you and I should treat our Non-Muslim friends and neighbours on a day to day basis as well as how to government should treat a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state.

"He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet." (Bukhari, Muslim)

"Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)

"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)

"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)

"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)
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Default RE: A prayer for tm - 03-14-2006, 07:02 PM

Prayer for satjas
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Thank you Lord for your powerful prescence. We know Lord that it will reach a time where every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord(romans 14:11) and i pray right now that satjas will be saying it for the right purpose. In Jesus name. Amen.
 
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Default RE: A prayer for tm - 03-14-2006, 08:52 PM

To Christians:
If you pray for somebody, and that person doesn't pray for himself....is it not pointless?
Praying for somebody earns YOU points on God's score card, not the one you're praying for.

Conclusion: Praying for somebody is indirect selfishness.

((The thought revealed by this writer by no means reflect on his beliefs. He IS, believe it or not, a christian. The why of it all is, simply put, none of your business.))
 


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