[safina]

However does the promise of life after death affect the jugdement wether to believe in god or not?How many people would believe in God if there was no promise of life after death.If God really exists and wanted only faithful people,he should have told them that there is no life after death and they should follow him because it's right.
If people only want to get to heaven what is the real value of faith?

[masaa_always]

Their is no race or a battle that is sweet if there was no victory and a crown. By the promise of eternal life, it only shows us of the value of what the Lord has done into our lives. A genuine believer does not believe in God to escape from hell and to enter into heaven, but because he loves Him. 1 Corinthians 13 talks of Love. Love is that which is unending. So by loving God who is life then we are sure we have eternal life.

Paul says that if there is no resurrection of the dead then our hope is in vain. And Christ died and rose again because the battle is between life and death. And so if there is no life after death then Christ would have come for nothing in this earth.

By man falling from sin we see mans' life span been cut short meaning sin brings death but in Christ - that which was lost is restored and this is fellowship and life. Man would not need salvation if dying is the end of everything but salvation is what gives hope beyond the grave. Take a real life example - A man who gets married just to take the wife to bed will eventually get bored and quit looking for something new. But a man getting married because of LOVE will go on loving no matter the circumstances so we follow God not because of Heaven but because He showed us love and as we love Him back. That is relationship.

[safina]

>(1)Their is no race or a battle that is sweet if there was no
>victory and a crown.

Stop contradicting yourself.So this tells me that you could not believe in God if there was no crown(life after death)

>(2)Paul says that if there is no resurrection of the dead then
>our hope is in vain.

Thanks for using the word hope in your statement.According to my oxford dictionary the word hope mean..."a feeling of expectation and desire for something to happen..." If the bible is right,why should we hope,we should just know its coming instead of hoping.

> Take a real life example
>(3) A man who gets married just to take the wife to bed will
>eventually get bored and quit looking for something new.

So you mean you would be bored of waiting for life after death and engage in something else.Or maybe I did not get your point right.Hit me with some more ....


I do appreciate your response though.

[TeamManager]

Life after death is a promise for everyone. The issue is WHERE you will spend it.

Don't worry, you will also have life after death.

[safina]

I do respect your views Mr TM but you never answer any of my questions.Just to remind you,people who have not facts to put across their points always use religion as a shield.look at Osama and Islam,christianity and colonization in Africa,the list is endless ma broda.

[TeamManager]

@Safina

Sorry, I was not trying to 'answer' your question .... I just wanted to state that the promise is for 'everyone', the difference is 'where'.

Since you have the FACTS that life after death doesn't exist then 'misguided Christians' should be the least of your concern.

I am eagerly looking forward to reading some of your FACTS.

For me, my faith is based on the Words of Jesus faithfully recorded in the Bible.

Otherwise i am looking forward to spending 'eternity' with God.

[Delyteful]

safina this is a very ineteresting post.. I never really thought of the hereafter as a bribe.. maybe coz of what i was fed at a young age..

But life is test for us.. and as mentioned above "Their is no race or a battle that is sweet if there was no victory and a crown"

if the promise of life after death did not exist then this world will be a totaly mess.. people wont do as much good for what will be the point?

i dont know.. im a little confused right now.. im not sure of what to say.. u triggered my thoughts girl ;)

[masaa_always]

…..the devil was an angel who defied or disobeyed God.

Adam & Eve were tempted by the devil and they sinned. If it were not for this two – Adam & Eve, if it were not for the devil defiling God in the very beginning, . . …….men,,,I wonder where & how I’d be thinking right now

As Adam’s descendants we were born ‘dead through sin’ (i.e. we were born as sinners) through his disobedience to God. And as his descendants again we are born-again through faith in Jesus Christ of which we are put right with God. By being saved, one’s past sins are cancelled in the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus acts as our ‘lawyer’ before GOD. There is absolutely NO way through to God except through Jesus Christ, believe it or not.

We do not put faith in God only to go to heaven or to have life after death. This world is ruled by the ‘prince of the world’ i.e. the devil. All the earthly possessions e.g. going out, catching strokes from time to time, getting high on weed, tch & what have you, watching holywood boring movies, idolizing 50 cents and his crap musiq…etc etc are worldly desires which bear birth to sin. Those are just few examples. They are the complete opposite of God’s intentions for us. The only way and I mean the only way to have power over sin is through no one but Jesus Christ. By putting faith in Jesus we have power to say NO to this worldly possessions or desires that bear birth to sin. Salvation is a free gift to those who seek it. It cannot be bought or sold. It’s a free gift given to us through His grace.

The devil will be defeated very very soon (Coming of Christ). i.e. he will exist NO MORE. Those who have been put right with God (born-again) will live forever with Him, in paradise…heaven. Those who accept Christ then like you Safina, when He comes will have their heads chopped off, the non-believers will have a mark of the beast installed upon them – who knows what God will do to them but I assure you it will be undescribably ugly & ungodly.

Jesus is the way, the truth & the Life…….so get saved Safina (get out of the confusion-mania) and let the devil know you are not his own….

[ATLian]

>As Adam’s descendants we were born ‘dead through sin’ (i.e. we
>were born as sinners) through his disobedience to God.

Why would an all-wise god punish me for what Adam did 7,000 years ago? What fairness is there in that?



>There is absolutely NO
>way through to God except through Jesus Christ, believe it or
>not.

OK, what about for those who died before Christ came along? And those who have never heard of Christ? And those who die as kids? And those who are born dead? Or those born without the ability to conceptualize and know Christ?



>Salvation is a free gift to those who
>seek it. It cannot be bought or sold. It’s a free gift given
>to us through His grace.

Salvation is NOT free. Oxygen is free, you just breath and its there, you don't have to do anything, just breath. There are tons of crap you have to do in order to get salvation. You have to give up a heck of a lot of stuff to get salvation.

[TeamManager]

>Why would an all-wise god punish me for what Adam did 7,000
>years ago? What fairness is there in that?

Your personal sin separates you from God.


>OK, what about for those who died before Christ came along?
>And those who have never heard of Christ? And those who die
>as kids? And those who are born dead? Or those born without
>the ability to conceptualize and know Christ?

The Bible addresses the case 'How will they believe if they have not heard?' Google

>Salvation is NOT free. Oxygen is free, you just breath and
>its there, you don't have to do anything, just breath. There
>are tons of crap you have to do in order to get salvation.
>You have to give up a heck of a lot of stuff to get
>salvation.

Atleast your statement confirms your misinformed ideas about salvation. Trying reading the Bible and learn the truth & the difference between Salvation and religion.
***Salvation is a free gift from God .... you can do nothing to earn or deserve.***