Speaking in tongues

teejay · (#1 (**permalink**))

It sure does exist but the manner in which some people go about speaking it leave me wondering. They utter words that even God himslef would not know. According to the book of Acts 2:4 The tongues that spoken there were 'other tongues,' not 'unknown tongues' or 'ecstatic tongues.' Except when referring to the actual physical organ, the word 'tongue' in the New Testament always refers to a language. In this case, the tongues are the actual languages of the different nations listed in Acts 2:9-11, as made obvious in the context. I feel that what I do hear these days and especially from these fanatical churches other of which have name difficult to pronounce(names that almost those starngue tongues they utter). I think it high time peopel stopped just lsitening to some preachers who lead their souls to eternal pedition and start reading from ther books. A friend of mine who happend to be a member in one of these churches put up a big argument with me over it before I show her what is written in that book she was carrying. Mark you she was inviting me to go and witness the what she called the manisfestation of the Holy Spirit. Of course I turned her down.

I was once there and when they laid hands on me it was a diffrent case. My ohh my! I did not go down as expected and they figured I needed more than one hand I had to give in to save my head from continous pounding and as I did that I only wished I had accompanied myslef with an umbrellah. Imagine more than three mouths sprinkling the saliva that we only see at the dinner table whenever there is rare delicacy arranged.People should sober up and not just following every thing that comes in the name of God. We have been warned several times in the bible of these heinous people.

Does anybody have a different opinion on this.

martin77 · (#2 (**permalink**))

Maybe they are faking it, maybe not. Maybe they are the real thing, maybe they are on the way to hell. you never really know for sure about other people but you can be sure about yourself. Are you real? how do you relate to God? Work on being certain about that. Forget the others.

TeamManager · (#3 (**permalink**))

Martin, in agreement

Two common mistakes
1. God only works in one (unique) particular way
2. God doesn't work in that particular any more

Let God be God, for us lets just be certain about ourselves.

Three blind men in the Bible received their sight. One Jesus used just His 'word', second guy 'spit' and third guy 'spit and mud' ......imagine them insiting that only 'their way' was correct.

teejay · (#4 (**permalink**))

>Maybe they are faking it, maybe not. Maybe they are the real
>thing, maybe they are on the way to hell. you never really
>know for sure about other people but you can be sure about
>yourself. Are you real? how do you relate to God? Work on
>being certain about that. Forget the others.

Well we are suppoed to be our brothers keeper and that fact alone should tell us to be concerned with other brethrens in church. We must point out the wrongs that we see in the church. There is therefore no way we can forget about others and pretend to be alright with the wrongs. That will be the same as watching a blind person heading for the ditch while you stand mum. HOw then do you perpetrate the Command love other as you love thyself and do unto other what you'd love do unto you.

The word says that it is a double edged sword and while i minister to the other persons It also scrutinises me as well. And martin DOnt hide behind the word maybe. That word makes you sound like you are not really sure of what you want stress. You with matter of Deity one has to be steadfast and not place their legs on the either proverbial horses.

The subject of discusion is speaking in tongues and I just said that it is has lost its meaning in the church. people are saying things they only know in very strange utterences that even God himslef cannot begin to fathom as praise to him but something else. Surel even you martin have seen these things am talking about. Please refer to Acts 2 and see what speaking in tongues is all about.Only then will you stop saying "maybe"

Dem Gal · (#5 (**permalink**))

>The subject of discusion is speaking in tongues and I just
>said that it is has lost its meaning in the church. people are
>saying things they only know in very strange utterences that
>even God himslef cannot begin to fathom as praise to him but
>something else. Surel even you martin have seen these things
>am talking about. Please refer to Acts 2 and see what speaking
>in tongues is all about.Only then will you stop saying
>"maybe"

According to the bible, the gift of "tongues" is a gift of the Holy Spirit. This is one of the reasons I am careful when commenting about matters of tongues since the only sin that is unforgivable is the sin of "grieving the Holy Spirit".

I remember a preacher saying something which somehow clarified this issue. He said that the gift of tongues is manifested in two different forms, which are;

1. Talking in Tongues
2. Praying in Tongues

Of the two, Praying in tongues is one of the signs of a christian who has been filled by the Holy Spirit. The gift of Talking in tongues goes hand in hand with the gift of Interpreting Tongues. Therefore its only prudent for one to talk in tongues when someone else can interpret this strange tongues to the congregant such that the word of the Lord is passed along.

ATLian · (#6 (**permalink**))

How does one know that someone is actually speaking in tongues, and not just uttering a load of crap? We had some chaps in high school who were famous (or is it infamous) for talking in tongues, later on it was discovered that they were faking it...

teejay · (#7 (**permalink**))

>According to the bible, the gift of "tongues" is a gift of the
>Holy Spirit. This is one of the reasons I am careful when
>commenting about matters of tongues since the only sin that is
>unforgivable is the sin of "grieving the Holy Spirit".

Thats Right and am with you on that one.

>I remember a preacher saying something which somehow clarified
>this issue. He said that the gift of tongues is manifested in
>two different forms, which are;
>
>1. Talking in Tongues
>2. Praying in Tongues

>Of the two, Praying in tongues is one of the signs of a
>christian who has been filled by the Holy Spirit. The gift of
>Talking in tongues goes hand in hand with the gift of
>Interpreting Tongues. Therefore its only prudent for one to
>talk in tongues when someone else can interpret this strange
>tongues to the congregant such that the word of the Lord is
>passed along.

To add on to that,must say that Tongues is just another word for language. A person can be sent to teritories where for instance only Kikuyu is spoken but the Minister himself is lets say is Kalenjin. It is only pruden that When he speaks in tongues the Kikuyus who are there, will understand what he is saying.In short the tongue he will speak is Kikuyu with the help of the Holy spirit. Praying in tongues is also the similar to talking in tongues. And this is what the Book of acts of the apostles 2 brings out clearly.

It is therefore important to understand that anything that is poken that cannot be interparted here on earth in any language is void and definately not the work of the Holy spirit, but an invention of the speaker of the strange utterence.

teejay · (#8 (**permalink**))

>How does one know that someone is actually speaking in
>tongues, and not just uttering a load of crap? We had some
>chaps in high school who were famous (or is it infamous) for
>talking in tongues, later on it was discovered that they were
>faking it...

AT, please refer to my correspondence to DG. Also try and Read Acts 2 it will give you more insight on tongue speaking.

As for the guys you are refering to, I call them fanatics. Now fanatism is one form of satan's sublt snares. He is using every luring antics to get to convert more and more persons into his own zombies.

TeamManager · (#9 (**permalink**))

Mine is simply:-
Genuinely speaking in tongues during private prayer is edifying.
Public speaking in tongues without having an interpreter can cause confusion and can easily be abused

martin77 · (#10 (**permalink**))

As Demgirl said, the gift of languages is a valid one and very bibilical. I Have observed this stuff happening and I would be lying if I said I haven't had my doubts sometimes. But if they are not from God, then surely He will hold them accountable, won't He? Don't lose sleep over it. Work on the log in your eye first.