[satjas]

Hey TM

>You see the difference between my God and yours is that mine
>can create physical and non-spiritual things from his Word
>only. He doesn't have to be aided by enegry. I am not
>mocking....He is able.

My God is your God dear friend, why do you keep denying Me? I told you, you will do this three times before the cock crows and you have started. Do you know that you cannot do anything without thinking about it first? Even taking a crap needs some thought before it becomes an act. One has to think before writing the word 'word' right?? Your thought is not physical or spiritual, it is simply an energy in potential state. Please do not go round in circles denying this too, it is a fact. What you are actually trying so very hard to say is that God does not need to ask for anyone's approval to create anything God chooses to do. For you God is a magician.......and like a little child your book of magical tricks has convinced you beyond reasonable doubt that God makes things out of nothing. I do not intend to wake you up from your sweet slumber in a fantasy world, you chose to do so yourself. However if at any point I make any sense to you know that your truest feeling at that moment will be communication with God. God makes things from God, not from nothing, because God is All there Is. The world would come to a standstill if it were not for energy. It does not take rocket-science to figure that one out.


>ati...decendants from the sea? Please enlighten me.
>I also always wanted to know how 'nonliving' enegry or
>chemicals came to form physical living things, emoyions,
>infomation and knowlegde etc...Please don't give me that crap
>of 100 million years.

Do you understand that this world has been known to us for very many years? From records I have never known anyone to have added anything on this earth or removed it. Even all the dead people who ever lived, probably +50 billion and over are all lying buried or in ashes still on this earth. I want you to understand that concept before i explain further. When God said, according to your book of tricks, that She made us in her own image, you never stopped to think that some people are not exactly fully able, or perfectly normal, so they could never be His image could they? No, No, you'll argue, you meant in spirit. Then when i challenge you to explain what a spirit is, you will deny it is an energy, because your magic book never told you so. My friend, we are made up of the same exact 'stuff' that God is made of and that is why we are in Her image. The protons, neutrons and electrons are exactly the same in any atom. Their number varies yes! And what holds them together is a force also called an energy which is the exact same thing that God is made of.


>People's understanding of science can at times 'seem' to
>contractict God

Anybody's understanding or lack thereof of any subject matter does not deem the latter untrue. Lack of proof does not necessarily imply lack of existence. The apple fell and we all came to know of gravity, however some successfully challenged that theory and now we know gravity is subject to time and space. Have you ever heard of escape velocity? If we never knew this would not mean this fact never existed. I have told you this and will tell you again. Anything and everything you will ever know or discover is already known by God. God can never be surprised by new discoveries, She created them.

We need to tell the people the truth gently but honestly. We need to re-empower people with the knowledge that being made of the same 'stuff' as God they have unlimited power. We need to remind people that they are God........"for ye are gods, these miracles i have performed, ye will do even more, if you but believe that My father and I and you are one"- JC.......ok, ok, or words to that effect, did he say it not???????

-the paradigm shifter.......God's friend.

The soul is that which beholds beauty even when the mind denies it.

[martin77]

Evolution as proposed by Darwinists (if they can be called that) is something that logically speaking is not even possible. Ofcourse this does not mean that it proves that God created the world, you need Faith to believe that. Just that as an alternative to creation, it sounds even more unbelieveable if you think deeply about it.

The universe as it is is not a hierarchical system where components are placed in order of increasing or decreasing importance. if it was, then the darwin theory might have been theoretically at least, possible. But as it is it is a system of intertwinned components which cannot possibly function or even exists without the other.

Take life for example. A possible darwin suggestion is that life started as a single cell structure coming into being through a chemical reaction of sorts (which no scientist to date has ever managed to understand let alone duplicate but let us assume it is possible) the single cell then mutated to be a multi cellular organism and later with specialised organs such as the heart tissue, blood tissue and so on.

Which leads us to an immediate problem. say the heart exists inorder to pump blood through the body. If that is the case, blood tissue could not then possiblly have evolved before the heart tissue did otherwise it would just congeal and the organism would die. But the heart cannot function without blood which feed it with the oxygen it needs to keep its cells alive. so did the heart cells evolve, stay for a couple of million of years without oxygen while awaiting the mutation and hence the evolution of the blood tissue? these are just two organs. look at it more broadly to include the lungs, the kidneys, the liver, muscle tissue. did our great animal ancestor have to move around for a couple of million of years without a liver or a kidney while awaiting its evolution? A possible way out of it would be ofcourse that all the organs evolved simoultaniously, which again is as silly as saying that in multi secconds, an ameobe suddenly turned into a highly comlex multi system organism. if you can believe that, then you might as well believe in creation.

If you now stretch this arguement to cover the highly complex flora and fauna system that constantly feed and sustain each other, then evolution sounds more and more silly.

Wakili, you may not believe in God or that he created the world, but its time you ceased to think that evolution sounds more intelligent a theory that than that of creation

[joeNM]

God created the world when he said let there be light. maybe there was a big bang after he said it .anyway the bible is the truth and it makes more sense than darwinism
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