[Pebbles_Nibbles]

The black man's name is written in the book of life beside the white man's. All are one in Christ. Birth station, nationality, or colour cannot elevate or degrade men. The character makes the man. If a red man, a Chinaman, or an African gives his heart to God in obedience and faith, Jesus loves him none the less for his color. He calls him His well-beloved brother.

The day is coming when the kings and the lordly men of the earth would be glad to exchange places with the humblest African who has laid hold on the hope of the gospel.

God cares no less for souls of the African race that may be won to serve Him, than He cared for Israel. He requires far more of His people than they have given Him in missionary work among the coloured race. Are we not under greater obligation to labour for the coloured people than for those who have been more highly favoured? Who is it that held these people in servitude? Who kept them in ignorance? If the race is degraded, if they are repulsive in habits and manners, who made them so? Is there not much due to them from the white people? After so great a wrong has been done them, should not an earnest effort be made to lift them up? The truth must be carried to them. They have souls to save as well as we.

[blakstar]

>The black man's name is written in the book of life beside
>the white man's. All are one in Christ. Birth station,
>nationality, or colour cannot elevate or degrade men. The
>character makes the man. If a red man, a Chinaman, or an
>African gives his heart to God in obedience and faith, Jesus
>loves him none the less for his color. He calls him His
>well-beloved brother.
>
>The day is coming when the kings and the lordly men of the
>earth would be glad to exchange places with the humblest
>African who has laid hold on the hope of the gospel.
>
>God cares no less for souls of the African race that may be
>won to serve Him, than He cared for Israel.
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He requires far
>more of His people than they have given Him in missionary work
>among the coloured race.
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WHO ARE GOD`S PEOPLE???ISRAELITES

WHO WERE THE MISSIONARIES TO AFRICA--MOSTLY EUROPEANZ(XTIANITY)

WHO WERE THE MISSIONARIEZ TO AFRICA--MOSTLY ARABS(BEDOUINS)-ISLAM

Since we are dealin with christianity, the missionaries were not israelites.JUDAIZM-xtianity`s mother religion existed in parts of africa before the (remix).

your sentence is slightly misleading.

The missionaries WERE ON A MISSION(ARY),which obviously waz laying the foundation for their TRUE 'brothers' to create colonies.

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Are we not under greater obligation
>to labour for the coloured people than for those who have been
>more highly favoured? Who is it that held these people in
>servitude? Who kept them in ignorance? If the race is
>degraded, if they are repulsive in habits and manners, who
>made them so? Is there not much due to them from the white
>people? After so great a wrong has been done them, should not
>an earnest effort be made to lift them up? The truth must be
>carried to them. They have souls to save as well as we.
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PERSONALLY I consider it naive to heap africans` misfortunes or whatever you may wanna call it on any people.How long should we wait for other pple to set us straight??THIS REMINDS me when I waz in the west indies where actually there are still africans waiting for haille sellassie and marcus garvey to MOSES them back to africa.(like afrika is in another planet or dimension)to them it seemed once they made it to the continent a paradise is already prepared all they`ve got to do is get there--to me this waz funny and ofcourse sad.It only costs 1500$ round trip from the west indies to most places in africa, for me it` doesn`t make sense to wait for selassie and you can afford a plane ticket.THE ONLY THING KEEPING AFRICANS IN SERVITUDE IS IGNORANCE OR RATHER PPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

Yes the european did what he did but maybe if we were mo united b4 the advent of the european it would have been different...but some tribes and KINGDOMS thrived off SLAVERY,WE SOLD OUR OWN FOR MATERIAL Wealth. And now you expect the same whyte man to come build your house??WE FIRST NEED TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER BEFORE WE EXPECT ANY-ONE TO ASSIST (OR RATHER DICTATE FOR US)WHAT TO DO.

But since I try to be realistic I understand every-thing & every pple has it`s appointed tyme.---EVEN THE BEAST HAS HIS TYME APPOINTED FOR HIM TO FOOL ALL NATIONS.

so the Gods kreated man in their own image...in the image of the Gods created they them:both male & female

[Pebbles_Nibbles]

Blakstar,

Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. I was refering to 'spiritual Israel'and not Israelis as a nation.

Pebbles

[ojwang]

My friend you are still brainwashing yourself with the idea of christianity et al?.

[blakstar]

>Blakstar,
>
>Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. I was refering to
>'spiritual Israel'and not Israelis as a nation.
>
>Pebbles
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yes pebbles spiritual things are spiritually discerned; but manifests physically.Our actions radiate our thoughts & state of mind,we are known by our words & acts.My point is yes spiritual israel but how you explain to someone who doezn`t even know how live with they neighbor about spiritual israel??I think that`s why the commandments were simplified to loving God with all your heart,mind,soul and loving your neighbour as yaself....before we go to spiritual israel it makes mo sense (to me) if pple first learn to follow these SIMPLE ethics.

[blakstar]

>My friend you are still brainwashing yourself with the idea
>of christianity et al?.
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LOL...LOL..LOL.. FIRST OF ALL WERE ARE NOT FRIENDS....u remind me of a verse in the good book by christ to simon(I think) where JESUS SAYS "GET BEHIND ME SATAN.......

Well I choose my 'friend' to brainwash maself with christianity....I CHOSE LIFE and I urge you to as a 'friend' to consider it too.Step away from vain human teaching and chose the WISDOM OF JAHWEH THE ONLY TRUE BEACON OF INFINITE ILLUMINATION.

Now it`s not my duty to convince you Ojwang, see Jahweh is so great he gave every-one tyme and not only that he even allowz U-turnz...and still He sayz his message is not for every-one,only for those with ears.....THE BEST PART OF IT ALL IS THAT EVENTUALLY TYME WILL PROVE THE TRUTH...and if I`m a fool to have put ma soul in christ,you`ll have all the right to tell me I should have listened to you Ojwang the ATHEIST....but if YOU ARE WRONG I TELL YOU OJWANG, YOU`D BETTER INVEST IN AN UNEXTINGUISHABLE FIRE EXTINGUISHER AND PAIN KILLERS BECAUSE YOU WILL BE WAILING AND GNASHING YOUR TEETH FOR A REALLY LONG TYME MY 'FRIEND'.....

so the Gods kreated man in their own image...in the image of the Gods created they them:both male & female

[Pebbles_Nibbles]

>yes pebbles spiritual things are spiritually discerned; but
>manifests physically.Our actions radiate our thoughts & state
>of mind,we are known by our words & acts.My point is yes
>spiritual israel but how you explain to someone who doezn`t
>even know how live with they neighbor about spiritual
>israel??I think that`s why the commandments were simplified to
>loving God with all your heart,mind,soul and loving your
>neighbour as yaself....before we go to spiritual israel it
>makes mo sense (to me) if pple first learn to follow these
>SIMPLE ethics.


ANSWER

Blakstar, Jesus says, "if you love me, keep my commandments." Within the ten commandments you find the commandment that says, "love thy neighbour as you love thyself". One would not know how to love God without keeping His commandments. So, how about starting with keeping the commandments?

[blakstar]

>
>>yes pebbles spiritual things are spiritually discerned; but
>>manifests physically.Our actions radiate our thoughts &
>state
>>of mind,we are known by our words & acts.My point is yes
>>spiritual israel but how you explain to someone who doezn`t
>>even know how live with they neighbor about spiritual
>>israel??I think that`s why the commandments were simplified
>to
>>loving God with all your heart,mind,soul and loving your
>>neighbour as yaself....before we go to spiritual israel it
>>makes mo sense (to me) if pple first learn to follow these
>>SIMPLE ethics.
>
>
>ANSWER
>
>Blakstar, Jesus says, "if you love me, keep my commandments."
>Within the ten commandments you find the commandment that
>says, "love thy neighbour as you love thyself". One would not
>know how to love God without keeping His commandments. So,
>how about starting with keeping the commandments?


PEBBLES---THAT`S WHY I SAID,PPLE NEED TO START WITH THE SIMPLE ETHICS LIKE LOVIN THEY NEIGHBORS....B4 THEY THINK OF SPIRITUAL ISRAEL......U REPEATING WHAT I`M SAYING BASICALLY.
>

[thierry]

Blackstar makes me skeptical. Maybe it's her/his over the top description of hell that makes me wonder if he/she is clinging to religion so that he/she does not go to hell. If that is so then see you in hell black star. IF not then good.

I think hell is not a collective place. It is a state of mind. Call me new age if you want but it surely cannot be that simple.

let me leave with an intruguing quote by a native american......

Religion is for those that fear hell, spirituality is for those that have seen hell.