[Chameleon]

I have been reading a very fascinating book which I will recomend to any mashadite.

The name of the book is "Stolen Legacy" by the late George G.M James.

In his book the author tries to prove through evidence that "Greek Philosophy", the mother of modern day western philosophy are actually Egyptian (African) ideas that were stolen by early greek philosophers like socrates, Plato and Aristotole from the Egyptian high priests.

The Author points out that by the time the greek society was coming of age, the Egyptian civilization was far advance in the Mathematics, philosophy and medicine.

He says that at the time alot of people from different countries like greece went to Egypt to learn different disciplines in the famous Egyptian royal temples and Universities.

Therefore he believes that most of knowledge was taken back by greek students to their country, and it was this students who twisted the originality and claimed that they were the original thinkers of such ideas.

The first blow to the Egyptian civilization was when Alexander the great invaded Egypt in 333bc. It is said that the first thing Alexander did was to invade the Royal Egyptian Libraries and temples.

From there the Greeks stole books that dealt in science, philosophy and religion and sent them back home to greece.

They then turned the Royal Egyptian Libraly in Alexander into a University where the Egyptian knowledgable priests were forced to teach greek students different subjects like politics, philosophy and religion.

It is there that the Author believes that the likes of (first) Socrates, Plato and aristotal gained their knowledge directly or indirectly.

The Author points out that there is alot of similarities between Greek philosophies and what the Egyptian priests taught and recorded in their book of knowledge (The Egyptian mysterious book)

Although the Egyptian civilization was conquired, it is said that the Egyptian Mysteries of Religions and Philosophies were still popular and widely respected all over the regions.

It was this fact that forced the Roman emperors Theodosius in the 4th century and Justinan in the 6th century to abolosh (due to Jealousy) the Egyptian Mysteries of Africa and Legalize Christianity.

Thats why to this day Christianity through is missionaries has always targeted African religions which they call pagan religions.


What do you guys think? Is the Author crazy? Are there any Mashada/greek philosophy students who can give us their insights?



Semper Occultus

[hieroglyphics]

Its true that ancient African knowledge slipped in to Europe, the so called European rennaisance grew out of Islamic schoolarship. The Moors of North West Africa ruled spain for 800 years and woke Europeans up from the dark ages. If you go to spain you'll see the rich legacy of the Moors. Arabic numerals gave birth to modern mathematics. I'll read your book and I'ma recomend you read about the Moors.

[The Truth]

Bw. Chameleon I browsed through "Stolen Legacy" this very summer. My sister was reading it and I have to say the arguments are pretty convincing. Especially regarding the libraries and the sudden knowledge the Greeks claim to have discovered. Unfortunately I did not read it entirely and thoroughly but now that you?ve reminded me I must get a copy!

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Doveryai, no proveryai

[Chameleon]

The most amazing fact about the book is the kind of evidence the Author uses to prove his thesis.

He asks why most of the great greek thinkers all appear later in their lives? Plato appeared when he was 40 years old and someone like Aristotal appears when he was in mid 20's.

His theory is that the reason we know very little about the early lives of this thinkers is because they were still students in the Egyptian royal schools.

One of the most suspicious thinker is Aristotal. Aristotal is famed for writting world reknowed books on Mathematics, physics, theology,economics and politics.

It is also said that he got the money to write and publish his books from Alexander the Great.

Is it possible that Aristotal got looted Egyptian books of knowledge from Alexander instead of money?.. the author asks.

If Aristotal was really Platos student, and Plato was really Socrates student, then where did Aristotal get the knowledge of writting insightful books that dealt in each and every subject?

If Socrates was knowledgable in each and every subject and then he passed the knwledge to plato who in turn passed it to Aristotal, how come neither Socrates or Plato wrote as many books in all kinds of subjects like Aristotal did.

Shoudnt the teacher be more knowledgable than the student?

The point is that the 1000 books that Aristotal wrote might have been copied from books that the Egyptians had already wrote in Mathematics, physics and theolgy.



Semper Occultus

[kianda]

According to Antony T. Browder (Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization):

Prior to the Greek use of the word "Egypt," Africans referred to their country as Kemet which was written KMT.

The first symbol is bilateral; that is it stands for two letters and means "black".

The second symbol is a monoliteral; that is it stands for the letter M.

The third symbol is another another monoliteral and stands for the letter T.

The fourth symbol is a determinative, which represents the plan of a village, city or nation.

Thus KMT means "the country of the blacks".

The Kemites portrayed themselves as being no different than the Nubians but distinctly different from the Indo-Europeans (Causcasians) and the Semite...

[kianda]

The dimensions of the King's Chamber (34'4" x 17'2" x 19'1") express the two ratios of "Pythagorean Triangles" and 3:4:5. The pyramid builders were obviously familiar with these sacred triangles thousands of years before Pythagoras was supposed to have introduced them...

[agose]

enyewe white jamaz seem to thug everyhting they are the worlds earliest conmen and players hahahahahahahaaaaa hey but ive always had this question......were the egyptians blacks???????

[makaveli]

I also found out something interesting a couple of months back. The belief that Hippocrates was the father of medicine is a white jamaas' story. There was an Egyptian hundreds of years b4 hippocrates time who wrote a book that described very mainy ailments and their cure.

It is also a known fact that the first recorded genius was an African.

[Msoto]

To add onto African heritage....was a problem i watched about some tribal ancestrys...of a tribe in mozambique...believed to have roots in Yemen

This tribe is known to have been part of a civilisiation about 3000 yrs ago. The evidence the author of this migration gives is

1) similarity of ethnic names in a apart of yemen known as sena....not even in todays maps...

2) oral traditions of the tribe...that was based in mid east.......

3) genetic mutations that can be used to calculate the age prior to the mutations.

.....and so...we were on our way to progression....before being DOCTRINATED by ideas of PAGANISM.....

[bow]

hey good messages here.....u see once u know that most studies have been presented from the viewpoint of the authors, most of whom are white (and they also advance their stereotypes, implicitly)...which we learn and are beginning to question...Most fields of study can be questioned espe. when concerning origins!! Africa (and her pple) have given alot to this world than have been credited for!! Africa has also been the most abused/misused continent of the whole planet!!
Surely the last shall be the first, and the first shall be the last!!