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Default YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 07:43 AM

Today marks one year since the September 11th tragedy. How do you feel about the attacks one year later? How do you feel about the way they changed America and the world at large? Are you still trying to cope, or have you come to terms with what happened? Share your thoughts

 
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Default RE: YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 08:05 AM

That missiles cannot and will not tell the difference between protagonists and innocent civilians in time of war. We will all pay the price if we do not take heed. A lesson for us to learn in this trying time of election.

Also..live your life to the fullest each and every day!

 
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Default RE: YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 08:23 AM

My thoughts go to the families and friends of the 3K+ folks who perished.

However, can't stop thinking how a country with formidible agencies like FBI and the CIA didn't see these dudes coming.

Came across an article (well a theory with enough conspiracies) that I guess can make you think twice, especially when you're not in a "very" alert state....The theory was the well known concept of Problem, Reaction, Solution. Cause a problem, there will be an overwhelming reaction, and provide the solution, which of course is of your own prescription.

I mean, nothing makes sense anymore....read for yourself and try figure...



WARNING: This article is long so don’t say I didn’t tell you, but its really creative fiction if you don’t believe it and shocking but worth the read if you do.

Source: http://www.davi****e.com/icke/index1a.html

ALICE IN WONDERLAND AND THE WTC DISASTER ~ Articles by David Icke
ALICE IN WONDERLAND AND THE WTC DISASTER
IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE FORCE BEHIND THE U.S. ATROCITIES JUST ASK: WHO BENEFITS?
“Nothing would be what it is, Because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary-wise -what it is, it wouldn’t be. And what it wouldn’t be, it would.
You see?” - Alice in Wonderland.
By David Icke

The force that seeks to control this world and introduce its global fascist state, the network I call the Illuminati, is nothing if not predictable.
The unbelievable horror perpetrated on the cities of New York and Washington is a problem-reaction-solution sting on the collective mind of all humanity
and I have been expecting an event of this magnitude for some years. I thought it could be a war or a nuclear “terrorist” device, but something fantastic
was always going to happen during the years of the Bush presidency when, as I wrote on inauguration day, the agenda would be pressed forward with a gathering
pace.
Fast as the world was being moved towards global centralised fascism, it was still not fast enough to match the timescale demanded by the Illuminati agenda.
And the opposition to their globalisation plans and their assaults on freedom, was gathering by the day. It was clear that something of enormous magnitude
was being orchestrated that would so devastate the collective human mind with fear, horror, and insecurity, that “solutions” could be offered that would
advance the agenda in a colossal leap almost overnight. This is what we saw in America on the ritually-significant eleventh day of the ninth month - 911
is the number for emergencies in the United States. Ritual and esoteric codes are at the heart of everything the Illuminati undertakes.
And, mind-numbing as these atrocities are, this is the start, not the end, of the next cycle of the Illuminati agenda for the mental, emotional, spiritual,
and physical imprisonment of humankind. More and more death and destruction will unfold as the “Free World” unites as an (in affect) world army and world
government to use the threat of “terrorism” (their own) to justify a war against the people and countries they choose to take the rap for what the very
forces WITHIN the “free world” are themselves responsible for. Even war with the Islamic peoples is not the end, but the means to an end - a conflict with
the remaining forces of communism, which they also control. Remember that the Illuminati operate through every country and within “terrorist” organisations
and those agencies which “oppose” such terrorism. Only by having agents within all “sides” can they be sure of controlling the game and knowing the outcome
before it starts. The Illuminati have operatives within the Islamic world, just as they have them in the so-called “free world”, as we shall see in the
months to come. Saddam Hussein is every bit as much a knowing Illuminati pawn as Father George and Boy George Bush in America, for example
(see…And The Truth Shall Set You Free).
The predictability of the ritualistic, emotionless, reptilian mind can be seen in the news management that has followed this U.S. disaster. Look at what
always happens in these circumstances and you will see that the blueprint is the same in almost every case. Before the event happens the fall-guy or “patsy”
is already set up to take the blame, thus steering the public mind away from dangerous speculation and onto a pre-ordained target. After the Kennedy assassination
it was Lee Harvey Oswald; after Oklahoma it was Timothy McVeigh; now it is Osama Bin Laden.
Bin Laden, deeply misguided as he may be, is no more responsible for what happened this week than I am. His name was introduced with the most obvious co-ordination
immediately after the disaster unfolded in the same way that the background to Lee Harvey Oswald was being circulated BEFORE President Kennedy was even
dead.
The idea that this guy from the mountains of Afghanistan with far more mouth than substance could be the “Mr. Big” of this enormous operation is utterly
insulting to anyone of even basic intelligence (see the article by journalist Robert Fisk, who has met him). We are not talking a parcel bomb here, nor
even some mind-controlled fanatic driving a car bomb into a restaurant in Jerusalem. Four commercial airliners had to be simultaneously hi-jacked in American
air space via American airports and flown into highly specific targets within 45 minutes of each other. How was this possible? Because it was an inside
job, that’s how, orchestrated by forces WITHIN the United States and planned by the highest levels of U.S. “Intelligence” in co-ordination with other strands
of the Illuminati spider’s web worldwide.
With an army now of mind-controlled assets at their disposal, it is possible to get them to do anything they require once the mind is programmed and the
trigger given to activate them. Those responsible for hi-jacking those planes and flying them into buildings will, in their conscious mind, have believed
in the “cause” they were programmed to believe in. But in truth they were not hi-jacking and flying those planes, their programming was. Mind control is
now so sophisticated that such programming is almost child’s play.
This terror was not a failure of U.S. Intelligence for God’s sake. They were not supposed to uncover the plot and getting weapons onto planes is so much
easier if you have support from those who control the system. I have heard that this is another “Pearl Harbor” and yes it is. You can read in ..And The
Truth Shall Set You Free and other books and studies how the American government knew the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor, but they did nothing
about it. Why? Because they wanted it to happen for a specific reason - to justify the U.S. entry into the Second World War, which President Roosevelt
(a blood relative of the Bushes) had said, just to get elected, that America would not be involved in. Problem-reaction-solution - and it’s the same with
the terrible events of this week.
(Press here for an explanation of Problem-Reaction-Solution (PRS) if you are new to this technique).
In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, the “pin it on bin Laden” campaign was launched as per pre-arranged plan. The Republican Senator and Illuminati
stooge, Orrin Hatch, for example, told CNN that he had high-level information from the FBI that bin Laden was behind the unprecedented attacks. “I do have
some information,” Hatch said in reference to his FBI briefing. “They’ve come to the conclusion that this looks like it may be the signature of Osama bin
Laden, that he may be the one behind this.” It’s OK, don’t go on, Orrin, we get the message and you have done your job.
Then we had the story of the hire car found so conveniently at Boston airport, where two planes were hijacked, which contained…yes…wait for it…a copy of
the Koran and an instruction video for how to fly commercial jets!!! Am I in fairyland or what? I am surprised they did not claim to have discovered a
letter from bin Laden in the car wishing the occupants the best of luck with their task. Maybe they plan to “find” that tomorrow, eh? It’s unbelievable
nonsense, of course it is, but most will believe it. And you will see more and more manufactured “evidence” of the “bin Laden connection” systematically
revealed in the days and weeks ahead.
So, the question: Who benefits? Well, the Illuminati want a world government and army, a world currency and centralised global financial dictatorship and
control. They want micro-chipped people and a society based on constant surveillance of all kinds at all times. And they want a frightened, docile, subservient,
people who give their power away to the “authorities” who can save them from what they have been manipulated to fear.
Funnily enough the question “who benefits from these horrific events in America?” can be answered very simply: Anyone who wants to introduce the above.
The disaster of 9-11, means that:
The Illuminati now have the excuse to retaliate against anyone their propaganda machine can manipulate the population to believe was to blame. Attacks against
Islamic targets have the potential to be the trigger for massive conflict and upheaval across the world and especially in the Middle and Near East. The
opportunities to then widen the conflict to involve Russia and China are endless. A third world war is part of the agenda and this can open the way for
that as the dominoes fall.
The “free world united with America” rhetoric from Blair and other “world leaders” is code for coming together as a world army and police force to fight
a “war against terrorism”. Already the Bilderberg-controlled NATO (the world army in waiting) has pledged such support and the collective consciousness
is being manipulated so comprehensively at this time that most people will support American and NATO terrorist attacks on unsubstantiated targets in the
name of fighting terrorism. The stunning contradiction in this policy will be lost on the majority blinded by the blatant and intense mind manipulation
that has followed the outrages in those U.S. cities.
As conflict escalates as a result of such calculated “retaliation” the pressure for centralisation of military power and the willingness to concede that
power by the populations of America and elsewhere will gather until the world army is in place, a world army with the power to attack and take over any
country that their propaganda machine can demonise.
The collective mind of humanity, and particularly that of America, is understandably now in a deeply traumatised state. They have been subjected to collective
trauma-based mind control and, as any mind controller or researcher can tell you, a traumatised mind is a suggestible mind. So in the wake of the trauma
comes the programming to manipulate the population to see events in the desired fashion.
One of the biggest potential obstacles to the “New World Order”, the centrally-controlled fascist global state, is the psyche of most American people. When
faced with the prospect of giving up their right of self-determination to global military, political, and financial control, most would be vehemently opposed
once they realised what was happening. Their collective sense of security, confidence, and pride in their nation and system has been built on the foundations
of immense military and financial strength. It is a collective version of the John Wayne mentality - “don’t mess with us - this is America.” From that
has come their collective confidence in themselves as a nation. Now that very sense of who they are, and their belief that they have the power to stand
alone, is in danger of being devastated.
It is absolutely no co-incidence that the targets of those hi-jacked planes were the very symbols of America’s sense of itself and its own security - the
Pentagon, symbol of their military might, and the World Trade Centre, twin pillars of their financial might. This is not primarily an attack on America,
it is an attack on America’s image and imagination of itself. Break their spirit and their sense of being “American”; break America’s confidence in itself;
put it in fear and fundamental insecurity; and you have overcome the most significant opposition to America allowing itself to be absorbed into the Illuminati’s
global and centrally-dictated society. The American psyche will now be bombarded with more and more shocks to its security and sense of self, as with Oklahoma
and the school shootings in the past. But from now on everything will be increased dramatically. It is vital that Americans refuse to submit to this and
realise that those who are condemning the terrorism in their midst are those who are responsible for it.
When I first travelled America in 1996, I was staggered at what a controlled society the “Land of the Free” really was (though still not as bad as Canada).
Now in the wake of this tragedy, the United States, and other countries, are set to become a fortress of invasive surveillance and, what’s more, because
of what has happened, the American people will not utter a significant word of protest at the rapid expansion of this Big Brother society. Problem-reaction-solution.
Watch for micro-chipping of people to be suggested to “stop the terrorists”.
An economic disaster has long been predicted by those who have exposed and studied the Illuminati agenda. To overcome resistance to single currencies and
central control of global finance, they need a world economic crash that will destroy the present system and kid the people into accepting centralised
global control as the only way to overcome the crash. Problem-reaction-solution. This is another reason why these attacks struck in the very heart of America’s
economic system - and why in the days before the carnage the talk of a global economic recession was plastered across the world media. Now they have a
blank sheet of paper with the chance to justify such a collapse and you will see global economic bodies brought in to “co-ordinate a response to the economic
crisis”. Indeed the G7 (Illuminati) grouping of nations has already begun this process.
These are just a few of the “benefits” to the agenda from the death and destruction in New York and Washington that was, I repeat, co-ordinated by forces
within U.S. borders. Those responsible are possessed by non-human entities and have no regard for human life any more than most humans have regard for
the death and suffering of cattle. The reptilian mind has an undeveloped emotional level and therefore there is no emotional consequence for them no matter
to what depths of horror and depravity they may sink. You only had to watch the emotionless, going-through-the-motions, reading the script, responses of
George W. Bush and Tony Blair, the UK Prime Minister, in the face of such immense suffering to see an example of this. It was in the class of the Queen
of England after the murder of Princess Diana. At least Reagan was a professional actor. Bush and Blair wouldn’t get in a school play.
Did George W. Bush know that these devastating disasters were going to happen that day? What do you think?? Did Tony Blair? What do you think?? But even
they are only pawns in a game controlled by far greater powers and they are as expendable as anyone once they have served their purpose. Personally I would
not be surprised in the least if Bush was sacrificed eventually to advance the “global terrorism” scenario, and perhaps someone very close to Blair also.
And, of course, if Bush does go, the new President would be the serial killer, ##### Cheney
(see The Biggest Secret).
The stakes are going to be stacked very high indeed from this point because the final push to global fascism has begun.
The world will never be the same again, that’s true, but within every danger there is opportunity. And for those of us, the vast majority, who seek peace
not conflict, freedom-for-all, not dictatorship-by-the-few, now have to look ourselves in the mirror and ask what we are going to do to stop these lunatics
from taking over their asylum.
Complaining is not good enough any more. Running is no longer an option because soon there will be nowhere to run. It is time to lift the arse (that’s “ass”
or “Bush” to Americans) from the chair and let’s stop sitting down and taking this #####. People can bombard the radio phone-ins with another version of
reality and when they cut you off get back again and again; tell everyone you know where they can get information to give them another fix on what is really
happening; send this and other articles on these subjects to everyone you know through e-mail, fax, or post; organise PEACEFUL protests against the fascist
state whenever freedoms are threatened; get people together at meetings to discuss and assimilate information the media will not tell you; LOSE FEAR AND
BE IRREVERENT IN THE FACE OF THIS ARROGANT DICTATORSHIP. IT CAN ONLY SURVIVE IF WE ARE FRIGHTENED OF IT AND INTIMIDATED BY IT.
There is so much we can do if only we first decide that we want to dedicate our lives to this with an unbreakable determination that will not concede to
any level of intimidation or consequences.
The Dragon is nothing like as powerful
as they want us to believe it is.

 
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Default RE: YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 08:39 AM

This incident pales compared to the rwandese killings.



 
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Default RE: YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 09:16 AM

And the story that no one wants to cover:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/enemy.html


Fi-Fo-Fum!

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Default RE: YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 10:00 AM

http://www.uglypeople.com/up-asama.jpg


Should he have been Person of The Year 2001,or did Mayor Guilliani deserve it?
 
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Default RE: YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 10:09 AM

I think it is sad if anyone actually needs this one day to remember anything. The only thing sadder is nothing has changed for the better since the attack.


 
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Default RE: YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 10:48 AM

forever beautiful


May they all rest in peace.But the war will continue,so does that mean that they all died in vain,even bel0ved pple back hom and in Tz?Esp with what's going on,not just the war against terrorism,but Bush's campaign against Iraq,if he makes one more move in the direction in which we're headed,he is going to kill us all because even those who may not have support for Saddam's ideals,they will not stand by and watch the US or Britain for that matter bring halo on=ver Iraq.They're gonna retaliate,and that will give Saddam good reason to use his weapons if he does have them,which I won't be surprised if he does.Then,what will Bush say?Or Tony Blair?
They need to make sure these pple did not die for nothing,and that no more will done.I am very afraid for this planet called earth.Things are so so wrong.
 
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Default RE: YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 03:19 PM

Y5next... Some Deep shyt you got in the article!!!
Now I'm confused. :(
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Default RE: YOUR THOUGHTS ON 9/11 - 09-11-2002, 04:18 PM

America...though has been a great giver to the world....has it's own interests it is trying to protect and it's attitude is not the best...it's not balanced!!
I hope americ gets to balance it's policies....not get so unbalanced....by enforcing it's world order everywhere.....
 
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