[Kyuk]

CREMATION IS THE WAY FORWARD BUT AS FOR ME THE THOT OF BURNING A CLOSE FAMILY MEMBER IS NOT BEARABLE. THOUGH THEY R DEAD I STILL WONT HAVE THE GUTS TO DO IT.

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"UR ONLY YOUNG ONCE BUT U CAN BE IMMATURE FOREVER"

[Dearly]

well i thought christians went with burial.. anywayz im not really sure about this issue but in the case of Kuria's wife if that was her final wish i mean wasnt he obligated to comply with that? pple may complain but hey it was her final wish... personally, i would not want a family member nor myself cremated.. just dont believe in it bana... id rather have my body rot back to dust or whatever, but burnt? aii... i can almost feel the pain ouch!

[Wa Mahuthu]

Illogical people might criticize Kuria for his actions, but understand that it was the wife's wish. As someone said earlier--the soul is out of the body so the body is nothing else but a useless matter. I dont have any objections to crimating people.

[Proletariat]

What is Soul??

Since the body has been cremated, we can convince ourselves that the soul is gone, 'where we don't know waiting for judgement' according to christians.

Let us not bury our heads in the sand like the proverbial ostrich, and conclude that when a human being is dead, is DEAD!!! Nothing more.

Nothing like eternal life or hell, or the lake of fire and such stuff.

People like Mansses Kuria who are well read theologians, not 'lay preachers' know very well that there is nothing like life after death, but they can't say so, in order not to jeopardise their positions, or lose followers.

Do you think Njoya believe in life after death, in practicality?

As Jesus said "If you know the truth, it will set you free and free in deed."

In my perspective, Kuria philosophically know this truth, but blind christians believe that this "truth" Jesus talked about is just "salvation."

[teejay]

In my view we christians should not observe cremation as form of laying our dead brothers/siter to their final resting place.

If we look at cremation in datail we will first of all find that it was mostly practised within pagan religous circles.Pagans as we all know exercise the worship several heathen gods which is contary to Almighty God's law.I think indulgence in this practice sounds as though the church has embraced that which they considered intially as vice and hence injected heathen practices in the body of christ(church).Among other heathen exercises in the church borrowed from the pagan religion are infant baptism,sunday worship which was introduced in the church during the conversion of contantine(a pagan)into christianity.The Roman catholic church enforced
this activity courtesy of their fresher king who apperantly did not shed off some of his pagan practises.You will also notice that inside the Roman Catholic temples there have so many statues(idols).Despite the fact that Jesus christ ressurrected they still prefer to keep him crucified by authorising the crucifix.Hence their christ is still dead!!!!

Secondly when I browse through my bible I find that cremation(burning)were instances of:-

-punishment for criminal acts,
-punishment for improper behavior,
-killings by Pagans, or
-destruction of idols and evil material.

God HIMSELF chose a secret burial place for His messenegr Moses' body,after Michael's protection over Moses' body from Satan who wanted to take it.(Deuteronomy 34:6,Jude 1:8-11)

We find that In the book of 1 Sanuel only King Saul And His Sons were burnt without it having been as an indication of punishement.Although the bible does not directly address cremation in full capacity,We can say that it does so indirectly due to the facts that all the bibilical saints advocated for burial and another fact that the practise was administerd in cases where wickedness of man was rampant not to mention its observation then heathen relgion of Paganism.

[Chameleon]

Hey TJ, as far as I know, there is no where in the bible that stipulates how a dead body should be disposed.

To me it seems that the dispossing of the dead body has to do with the cultural religious and enviromental aspects of that society.

I think that the Asian communities cremate dead bodies because of shortage of land. In the case of the bible times, I think that it was easier burying a body in a cave because that region is usually rocky.

But my question to you is this, if you really believe that when someone dies, and that his or her soul goes to heaven, then does it really matter how we dispose the dead empty body?

Why do you think that burying of the body is more godly? Is it because it was introduced by the Europeans in Kenya?



As I pointed out that in the other thread that most if not half of the rituals that are practised in the church have nothing to do with the bible.

Actually most of them are European traditions dating back to hundreds of years.