So when you think of God,how do you visualize Him? - Page 2

Sweet9 · (#11 (**permalink**))

THE ULTIMATE

Keeping it real ma peoples, keeping it real!

teejay · (#12 (**permalink**))

>So does this mean that you see
>nothing when you think of God?

No,nefertiti I see goodness just like I have said above.

>Again your advice that people like me
>should read the bible first b'4 posting
>things is very narrow minded. Why?
>Because you are preaching from a
>Christian point of view on a PUBLIC
>forum that happens to have NON
>CHRISTIANS as members too.

I am authorised to take the word to every body irrespective of their attitude,race.......name it all.The fact that you say the forum also constitutes of non-chrstians gives your post a slightly different direction.Other people worship God,others gods(Idols and....)Therefore with the lattar(non-christians with the exception of moslems and others that proclaim God)visualization here becomes a reality to the while with the former it is just an imagination.This therefore that brings us back to the question of emphasis on bibical litereture which from Genesis to Revelation exposes the God's goodness to mankind.

Contrary to my Critics in here,my visualisation of God is abundant goodness and goodness and more goodness.Of course there are stories like he is got the whole in his hands which creates theories or rather myths like that big hand from above.This in its real meaning is mean to exalt his might and greatness.For that matter metaphorical statement.Well visualising blinding light aroung him is very okay because that is part of his Glory.However he is not any closer to any old white beared guys we have seen around.

He is way beyond our wild caricated imaginations.God to me might mean my creator while to someone else it might mean something else.You realize that we live in worl of many religions and cults.

Shinashki · (#13 (**permalink**))

I got this from Islam.Com

Allah is the proper name of God, however, we know Him generally through His attributes. These attributes describe how Allah manifests Himself to us. God's attributes are innumerable since human intellect cannot possibly comprehend every aspect of the Supreme Being. A Hadith of the Holy Prophet (peace be on him) makes mention of Ninety Nine names of Allah commonly known as al- Asmaul Husna, the Most Names. In the Holy Quran we read: "And to Allah alone belong all perfect attributes. So call Him by these. And leave alone those who deviate from the right way with respect to His Attributes." (7:181).

"Allah - there is no God but He, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining. Slumber seizes Him not, nor sleep. To Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that will intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them; and they encompass nothing of His knowledge except what He pleases. His knowledge extends over the heavens and the earth; and the care of them burdens Him not;and He is the High, the Great." (2:256)

Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His light is a lustrous niche, wherein is a lamp. The lamp is in a glass. The glass is as it were a glittering star. It is lit from blessed tree - an olive - neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would well-nigh glow forth even though fire touched it not.Light upon light! Allah guides to His light whomsoever He will. And Allah sets forth parables to men, and Allah know all things full well.This light is now lit in houses with regard to which Allah has ordained that they be exalted and that His name be remembered in them, Therein is He glorified in the mornings and the evenings (24:36-37)

"He is Allah, and there is no God beside Him, the Knower of the unseen and the seen. He is Gracious, the Merciful.He is Allah, and there is no God beside Him, the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace, the Bestower of Security, the Protector, the Mighty, the Subduer, the Exalted. Holy is Allah far above that which they associate with Him.He is Allah, the Creator, the Maker, the Fashioner. His are the most Beautiful Names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Him, and He is the Mighty the Wise.(59: 23-25)

Abu Huraira (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated: The Holy Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Allah has ninety nine Names, one hundred less one; and who memorized them all by heart will enter Paradise." (Bukhari, The Book of Tauhid.

teejay · (#14 (**permalink**))

>Does this mean that when you close your eyes
>to pray,you do not imagine God in any.

When you do that nefertiti,you will not be any different from Eve in the garden Eden when she added her own words to Gods word in (Genesis 2:16); Eve quoted him(God)as saying they could eat of the trees. God had said they should not eat of the fruit of one tree; Eve added the statement that they should not even touch it. These are the very sins God warned about after His written Word was finally completed (Revelation 22:18,19). Doubting God's Word, AUGMENTING, then DILLUTING, and finally rejecting God's Word.

The bible therefore rebukes such thoughts which does not orignate from within it.

BIN LADEN · (#15 (**permalink**))

@Nefertiti

You forgot NYASAE! IN YOUR FIRST PARAGRAPH!

mumbi · (#16 (**permalink**))

Nefertiti, why is the pronoun HIM capitalized? What are you trying to emphasize?

Is it possible to not even visualize at all or think of visualizing as in god is just that.... GOD....... a name in writing...no logic in it, nothing less nothing more.

Like say for example ......July!

nefertiti · (#17 (**permalink**))

>
>>So does this mean that you see
>>nothing when you think of God?
>
>No,nefertiti I see goodness just like I
>have said above.
>
>>Again your advice that people like me
>>should read the bible first b'4 posting
>>things is very narrow minded. Why?
>>Because you are preaching from a
>>Christian point of view on a PUBLIC
>>forum that happens to have NON
>>CHRISTIANS as members too.
>
>I am authorised to take the word to
>every body irrespective of their
>attitude,race.......name it all.The fact
>that you say the forum also constitutes
>of non-chrstians gives your post a
>slightly different direction.Other
>people worship God,others gods(Idols
>and....)Therefore with the
>lattar(non-christians with the exception
>of moslems and others that proclaim
>God)visualization here becomes a reality
>to the while with the former it is just
>an imagination.This therefore that
>brings us back to the question of
>emphasis on bibical litereture which
>from Genesis to Revelation exposes the
>God's goodness to mankind.
>
>Contrary to my Critics in here,my
>visualisation of God is abundant
>goodness and goodness and more
>goodness.Of course there are stories
>like he is got the whole in his hands
>which creates theories or rather myths
>like that big hand from above.This in
>its real meaning is mean to exalt his
>might and greatness.For that matter
>metaphorical statement.Well visualising
>blinding light aroung him is very okay
>because that is part of his
>Glory.However he is not any closer to
>any old white beared guys we have seen
>around.
>
>He is way beyond our wild caricated
>imaginations.God to me might mean my
>creator while to someone else it might
>mean something else.You realize that we
>live in worl of many religions and
>cults.

Teejay slow down and calm down.You are begining to sound like a fanatic. You imply that such thoughts are to be avoided because they may lead one to eventually doubt and reject God. That is very paranoid and ludicrous! Like i said earlier, nobody has seen God for real yet we are human beings whom God blessed with a mind and imagination. And when one visualizes God to be an old man with light surroundung Him, it is sad that anybody would assume and thus predict that this will lead them astray. Belief in God is about FAITH. Xhee spoke of God being in his heart. Do you think that if he went on to say that when he prayed he thought of an old man then that would lead him to reject God??
That is illogical and irrational and says a lot about lack of faith.

Again please go back and read the original post.It was not directed to non believers.By this i mean those who do not believe in God/Allah or whichever name they refer to the Most High. It was not a question posed to idol worshippers and other wierd cults. Again it was not EXCLUSIVELY posed for Christians alone yet you constantly reply as if Christians are the only people worthy of God.In fact in your first post you said " non Christians cannot answer this question appropriately like you want it." Not a very Christian thing to say if you ask me.

Do not be vague.If you do not wish to answer the question then you are free to avoid it.But do not hover around the bush with words like "i see goodness..." I do not doubt that you do,but my question is what do you visualise when you think of GOd? What goodness is this? Do you see other Chritians praying? Crops growing? what?

Teejay do you know that if you go to Sunday school or even to any non Christian child who has been taught about Allah/Ngai or Jehovah and ask them how they think God looks like that they will have a definite answer?? Usually a 'big(as in size) powerful man' or 'leader of the angels' is the answer. Would you reject their imagination of Him simply because they were non Christian or children?? And what is it that the Bible says about having the mind of a child........

nefertiti · (#18 (**permalink**))

@BIN LADEN. Couldn't spell it right man! I wrote it with an 'i' and knew it was wrong coz it looked funny but couldn't figure out what it was. Thanx! Er.. so NYASAE it is!

@ Mumbi. I've always capitalised God. Just like i do countries,peeps names,Africa and the like. English 101. And with God or Him (personally) there is also the element of respect.When it comes to spelling out God people often do their own thing e.g On other sites some peeps don't use the caps with God or Allah coz they don't feel its that big a deal even if they are religious,some are in a hurry when typing but most are totally oblivious to the fact that God is often capped.And off course the atheists don't care. whatever floats your boat....

As for it being possible not to visualise God...i dunno thats why i want mashadites opinions whether they visualise or are just blank!

mumbi · (#19 (**permalink**))

honestly, I don't even think about it.....the visual thing.

Of course the letter G is capped cause it is a name (English 101 names MUST be started off with an Upper Case letter).......but capping all the letters of the pronoun "him" ......first time I am seeing this!

But I understand that respect thing you've got going on....'tis cool!

ciiku · (#20 (**permalink**))

@Mumbi - As far as I know, pronouns referring to God are always capitalized.

Nef- this is an interesting topic. I have never really given it much thought. As a child growing up in a Christian family in Kenya, I always envisioned God as an old kindly grandfather. Like my "guka." Now that I am an adult, I really don't know. I will think about it and let you know.