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EDD -
06-20-2002, 01:45 AM
EDD... " communism is for Losers!!"
It was brilliant , but , yet again, only idealistic. Someone should have suggested to KARL MAX to have human genes altered so that the new Super race would be devoid of selfishness.
- that's besides the point..
The fact remains, whichever way you slice it.. there is a greater force out there.... something that you cannot comprehend, the force behind creation. Somewhere out there, there is : GOD
* If you don't like me, blow me.... that's if you can find me... heheh!
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Makaveli -
06-20-2002, 01:56 AM
Absence of the "bible" in Africa , as you claim,
by no means suggests that Africa had not known christianity before " the greedy white man", curse on his ass, found the continent. It may not have been a wide spread thing, but, it would not be safe to say that Africa, did not entirely know christianity.
Ethiopian christian church has been dated back to King solomon and Queen sheba - BEFORE CHRIST.Well,you may argue that this church is more affliated to Jewish religion than christianity.Don't forget, that christianity is a Jewish offshoot. In Acts, Peter the Apostle, meets a nubian, Phillip, I think his name was....
men!!! do some research before running your mouth. And hey, watch that weed.
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lovely -
06-20-2002, 10:32 AM
lovely lips...(Lovely name ;-) ) anyway...The quote "christianity =platonism of the masses" IS NOT from Karl Marx as you so assume. It is from Nietzsche(pronounced Nichi)...for the record.
I do agree with you on this....Science and Reason do not suffice to explain existence or our purpose.
But..(lakini) the bone of contention(for me) is this. As Christians we are called to believe that the Christianity was not IN ANY WAY shaped by dialectical or historical forces.
For example the concept of the TRINITY(this word does not occur EVEN once in the Bible) was introduced in to "mainstream" Christianity 300 yrs after Christ to resolve the various arguments about the Nature Of Christ.
And F.Y.I the Ethiopian Church is an off-shoot of the Coptic Church founded by Alexandrian School founded in around xx A.D(I'll confirm that later).
AND this School of Thought tried to recncile Platonism/"Aristotaleanism" with Judaism and Christianity.
I dont wholly agree with the Prole's argument above but I do believe that in some ways WE as human beings have SHAPED(not created) the IMAGE of GOD to fit our ideals and to justify our actions.
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RE: lovely -
06-20-2002, 08:04 PM
This gets on me when people doubt the existence of God. Thanks to tee for being so brave and standing up for the Gospel of christ. For all those still doubting existence of God i don't know whether it is out of ignorance or what but when i look unto my life i really believe He is ,he was and will be forever more. i know of instances i have called him in desperation and he came for my rescue so i can't even have grounds to doubt his existence. My friends who are doubting all i can tell u is that heaven and hell is a reality. Jesus is the only way and truth. He is coming soon and whoever didn't believe in him will go to hell and forever they shall torment eternity. You need to come to him and he will give u eternal life. Eternity is a long time and u don't want to be in hell my friend. THANKS TO TEE FOR STANDING UP FOR THE TRUTH.
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RE: lovely -
06-21-2002, 04:32 AM
Cant any of these people argue their facts without claimin people to be non believers. Problem with most of you is you dont want to let your minds think on both sides of the coin. I have yet to see a valid argument claiming christianity is the true religion. All you shout is Faith, Faith, Faith. Dont you people realise that all religions are based on faith. Stop pretending that u r superior just because you are christians and realise that other religions are also based on faith,
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RE: lovely -
06-21-2002, 11:51 AM
>Cant any of these people argue their
>facts without claimin people to be non
>believers. Problem with most of you is
>you dont want to let your minds think on
>both sides of the coin. I have yet to
>see a valid argument claiming
>christianity is the true religion. All
>you shout is Faith, Faith, Faith. Dont
>you people realise that all religions
>are based on faith. Stop pretending that
>u r superior just because you are
>christians and realise that other
>religions are also based on faith,
Makaveli there is nowhere in here anybody has proclaimed that christianity is superior than any other religion.I think what has been said here has only potrayed What christians believe in as greater than anything and everbody else that ever existed.This is the supreme being under which everything else revovles.Am talking about God.God is superior no doubt about it.
God is rightieous all through and through therefore I fail to see the other side of Him you seem to be talking about in your phrase "the other side of the coin"
Regarding your doubt on whether christianity is a true religion I would say yes.Why???? It exists. it is not a hoax.As a matter of fact that which exists is true.This reminds of one thing.That day when Jesus was being baptised God had to prove to the doubtfull human mind that Christ was Indeed from above by saying this words "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
These words of confirmation were given to inspire faith in those who witnessed the scene, and to strengthen Christ for His mission.
It is however true that other religion are also based in faith,But what kind of faith are they based on.Let us for instance take a look at one belief.Numerous molsems have either blown themselves up or planted explosive devices with an aim to kill in faith that when they die killing innocent people they will go to heaven.
Am not being a moslem.I want you to acknowlegde one thing here.Christianity advocates for Love which should be exercised on everyone regardless of their religion,race sinful nature or repntant nature.......
Luke 6:34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
With love we learn to forgive.How can one claim to be full of love while their hearts habour killer instincts.
You have mention faith in your writing and have further told us that it is acknolegded within other religions.This therefore leads me to say that you believe in miracles.Other religions believe in miracles but when it comes to beleiving that Christ birth was one big miracle they seem to differ though they acknowledge Him but as son of Joseph.Why????because they try to think in the favor of biological sceinces.
It is impossible for finite minds to comprehend the work of God. Its mystery exceeds human knowledge;even sceince cannot for example the comcept of christs birth.In the same way you cannot comprehend faith without spiritual help.
Lastly you are way out of topic.Would you kindly consider coming back to the real topic.
May the Lord bless
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"The whole world, from President [George W.] Bush downwards, was engaged in trying to strike a power-sharing deal. If that power-sharing deal made Odinga number three, we'd have never accepted it." - Salim Lone
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RE: lovely -
06-21-2002, 01:07 PM
>It is however true that other religion
>are also based in faith,But what kind of
>faith are they based on.Let us for
>instance take a look at one
>belief.Numerous molsems have either
>blown themselves up or planted explosive
>devices with an aim to kill in faith
>that when they die killing innocent
>people they will go to heaven.
>
>Am not being a moslem.I want you to
>acknowlegde one thing here.Christianity
>advocates for Love which should be
>exercised on everyone regardless of
>their religion,race sinful nature or
>repntant nature.......
>
The same love the white man used to enslave the black man. The same love they used to colonise us while claiming God is great.
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RE: lovely -
06-21-2002, 07:49 PM
Jesus wept:-)
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RE: Did God Created us, or we Created him???" -
06-22-2002, 02:31 AM
>The same love the white man used to
>enslave the black man. The same love
>they used to colonise us while claiming
>God is great.
Makaveli,Would it have been any better if this word "Love" used by white man was from any other religion except Christianity????Colonisation would have still prevailed nevertheless.That is not an excuse in deformation of God's word.Your comments above seem to imply that Christianity colonised you.I am in total parallel disagreement with you.The bible tells the followers of christ to go and tell the whole world of the Good news.Now where in the scripture does it say that "go and colonise".Surely isn't the Love of God,Good news????
All these negativity subjected to christians is however not a new thing.It only strengthen their faith in the Lord.For if He Himself was hated and denounced and even killed by the very people he came to save;who are we christians to accept him and expect to be teated any better?????
Satan stands as stumbling block against followers of christ.One thing I think religious critics don't understand is that the spirit of critising is originating from Satan himself.He makes them believe that God is non existant while he sees God everyday to discuss negatively matters pertaining to christian faith.Let us take a look at the coversation between Satan And God......
...In Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
Job 1:9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
Job 1:10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
Please read on to see what satan does to Job.
Talk about colonization.It began Long time ago even before the white man come to africa.Africans themselves enslaved The Jews during pharoah's times.Romans Ruled over the Jews.The romans as a matter of fact had so much beleif in paganism.A religion that was extremely the opposite of God's expectation of man.
Have you not seen unsuspecting people being Lured around by people who first made them invest their trust in them.
People talk negative about God because they don't him.
READ YOUR BIBLE EVERY DAY
"The whole world, from President [George W.] Bush downwards, was engaged in trying to strike a power-sharing deal. If that power-sharing deal made Odinga number three, we'd have never accepted it." - Salim Lone
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EDD -
06-22-2002, 02:47 AM
For one, I did not presume that Karl Max was the author of the quote ( What do we call people who make quotes?... quotors???). I implied this was a quote favored by communists and atheists. Pardon my vagueness.
My learned friend,(I call you learned because, of course, I tip my hat at you, for being generous enough to give me the details without me having to google.)I agree with you.We have definitely "shaped" (sic) god's image .In every possible way.. (if you ask me.) I hate not proving what I say, then again, I am shy of making this a lengthy piece.
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