[brownsugar]

Why do we still talk about Jesus did this or that 2000 years ago. Since I started going to Sunday School in the early 70's it was the same story Jesus came 2000 years ago. Now we still say 2000 years ago. Will we be telling our kiddos Jesus came 2000 years ago too?
Makes me wonder Exactly how many years ago was Jesus around?Anyone care to give an answer?

[countryBoy]

lol brownsugar i was thinking the same thing ...when i was in primo our CRE teacher always told us the owrld is no older than 6000 years so anyone who talks about 6million years ago is a liar...
When i went to high school my CRE teacher and pastoral told me the same thing. Makes me wonder

[Onyango72]

brownsugar,

That is indeed a very good question. I think that this is a question of the words/terminology used. We all know that Christ died "MORE THAN 2000 YEARS AGO". The issue is not in knowing how many years Christ was around. The fact is, he came and dwelt among mankind in order to reconcile man to God. The bible says that there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men. It also says that he lived for 33 years. His ministy began at the age of 30 years. The most important question I think you should ask yourself is "DO YOU KNOW THIS JESUS?". Do you have a personal relationship with him?

[Mark Twist Thuo]

Onyango

Our traditional history tells me that Mugai/Mwene Nyaga/Ngai created the world and our ancestors: Gikuyu and Mumbi.

They were shown the luscious green valley Mukuruwe wa Gathanga and asked to multiply and fill the world.

My question for you then is: Do you know Mwene Nyaga and do you have a personal relationship with him?

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[Onyango72]

MTT,

"Our traditional history tells me that Mugai/Mwene Nyaga/Ngai created the world and our ancestors: Gikuyu and Mumbi. They were shown the luscious green valley Mukuruwe wa Gathanga and asked to multiply and fill the world. My question for you then is: Do you know Mwene Nyaga and do you have a personal relationship with him?"

The first mistake you make is assuming that your traditional history and mine are the same. Secondly, what evidence do you have, scientific, historical, archelogical the this Mugai/Mwene Nyaga/Ngai existed. And what if anything has Mugai/Mwene Nyaga/Ngai done for all of mankind. Unfortunately there is only one mediator between God and man and that mediator is not MugaMugai/Mwene Nyaga/Ngai. It is the Lord Jesus Christ. I do have a personal relationship with Christ, but I definately don't know Mugai/Mwene Nyaga/Ngai and thus don't know who he is!!

[Mark Twist Thuo]

Onyango

It could be that your people lost this tradition over the years and forgot about Mwene Nyaga and Gikuyu and Mumbi.

But I can assure you that this is the true creation story and you and I are a part of it.

There is only one Mwene Nyaga and he has existed through out time.

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[Onyango72]

MTT

Like I said the mistake you make is assuming that your traditional history and mine are the same. Do you have any evidence of what you say?? If so present it, if not then I'm sorry!!

[supajack]

Onyango,

Just wanted to let you know that African Traditional Religion now has a new member:

Me.

And thank goodness all that Christian rubbish is no longer a part of my life.

[makaveli]

Onyango, what scientific evidence do you have for Jesus Christ being existent. Check out this article below. does it mean my great great great grandfather will not go to heaven because he did not meet the white man.
I am anti FGM, but he should not be tried for believing in African customs

Sect leader in court over anti-Jesus slur
By NATION Correspondent
The leader of an unregistered Kikuyu sect was yesterday charged with urging her followers to renounce Christianity and start circumcising girls.

Ms Wanjiru Nduhiu of Heema Ya Ngai Wi Muoyo (There is truth in the name of the living God) is alleged to have told a congregation at Kiamariga Trading Centre in Mathira, Nyeri District, that Jesus Christ did not exist.

She is said to have advised the congregation to renounce Christianity and revert to their traditional African religion, which they should adhere to by ensuring that every woman was circumcised.

The accused, who was dressed in a traditional Kikuyu attire, denied the charge before Senior Resident Magistrate Mrs Margaret Gitonga.

She did not apply for bond and was remanded in custody until April 14 when the case will be heard.

I am anti FGM, but he should not be tried for beleiving in African customs

[Mark Twist Thuo]

MTT
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>Like I said the mistake you make is
>assuming that your traditional history
>and mine are the same. Do you have any
>evidence of what you say?? If so present
>it, if not then I'm sorry!!

Onyango

You fell right into the trap.

Now tell me my friend, why do you assume that Jewish traditions and our traditions are the same when you come preaching about Jesus and Christianity?

If you demand proof for the existence of Mwene Nyaga you must first of all show proof of your own claims which you always claim to rest in faith.

If yours are based on faith, then our belief in Mwene Nyaga is also based on faith.

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