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01-03-2002, 06:35 AM
In this article I shall describe the Islamic Paradise or Jannat which was invented by Prophet Mohammed to bribe the Arabs into committing hedious crimes by promising them materialistic things which they couldn't obtain in the harsh desert. The paradise contains six important items: beautiful virgins, young boys, water, wine, fruits and wealth.
To prove my point I have taken verses from the Koran and quotes from the Hadiths.
VIRGINS (HOURIS)
Mohammed knew that sex would sell very well among the group of his lecherous followers who were motivated to fight battles by the promise of sex slaves and booty. By constantly emphasizing to his followers that they would get untouched virgins in Paradise, Mohammed is clearly expressing his "high" opinion of the institution of marriage and his fairness to women. Once the followers go to heaven, they can conveniently ditch their wives for the fresher and more pleasurable sexual encounters with 'Houris' (beautiful virgins). Not only that, the poor wives who gave up their virginity for the pleasure of their husbands do not get even one Male Sex Bomb. But wait, Allah is all merciful! He gives the wives the rare honour of watching their husbands deflower those 72 Houris (virgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys.
The relevant verses from the Koran are:
Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.
Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.
Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)
Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...
Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "
Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..
In the Hadiths, Mohammed goes one step further and expands the promise of virgins to include a free sex market where there is no limit of the number of sexual partners. Women and young boys are on display as if in a fruit market where you can choose the desired ripeness.
Quote from Hadiths
Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34
Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, "There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them."
YOUNG BOYS
Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic conutries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls.
The relevant verses from the Koran are:
Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.
Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.
As mentioned in my previous article, famous poets in Arabia glorified homosexuality. As an example I am including a poem in 'Perfumed Garden' by Abu Nuwas: O the joy of sodomy! So now be sodomites, you Arabs. Turn not away from it--
therein is wondrous pleasure.
Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
twisting on his temple and ride as he stands like some gazelle
standing to her mate. A lad whom all can see girt with sword
and belt not like your whore who has
to go veiled.
Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
very best to mount them, for women are
the mounts of the devils
Need I say anything more after this colorful rendition by Abu Nuwas ?
WATER
One of the major problems in the desert of Arabia was shortage of pure water. Mohammed knew very well that to the Arabians, fresh water was an item of luxury. So promising them abundant pure water, river, fountains and springs in paradise would defintely lure them to murder, loot and plunder people of other religions in this life.
The relevant verses from the Koran are:
Koran 13:35 This is the paradise which the righteous have been promised: it is watered by running streams..
Koran 3:198 As for those that fear their Lord, theirs shall be gardens watered by running streams in which they will abide for ever, and a goodly welcome from God...
Koran 3:136
...These shall be rewarded with forgiveness from their Lord and with gardens watered by running streams, where they shall dwell forever. Blessed is the reward of those who do good works..
Koran 15:45
The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear flowing water)
Koran 22:23
As for those who have faith and who do good work, God will admit them to gardens watered by running streams..
Koran 47:15
Here is a Parable Of the Garden which the righteneous are promised: In it are rivers of water incorruptible;
Koran 55:50-51
In them each will be two springs flowing free; Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?
Koran 55:66-67
In them will be Two Springs pouring forth water in continuous abundance:Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?
Koran 44:51-55
As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amidst gardens and fountains...
Koran 56:7-40
...They shall recline on couches raised on high in the shade of thornless Lote trees and talhs; amidst gushing water...
WINE
Mohammed had to find more selling points besides virgins, young boys and plenty of water. What good would be of Paradise without rivers of wine for his followers? Wine was an extremely precious commodity in the dry deserts of Arabia where it was rare to find vineyards. Mohammed had a problem here- he had to include wine in his 'Paradise-Package' but how could he include it in the list when Allah had declared intoxicants as sinful. The only way to do this was to somehow claim that the wine in the promised Paradise was not intoxicating and therefore not sinful. Never mind the fact that wine by nature contains alcohol which is intoxicating.
The relevant verses from the Koran are: Koran 47:15
Here is a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised. In it are...rivers of wine...
Koran 37:40-48
But the true servants of God shall be well provided for,...they shall be served with goblet filled at a gushing fountain, white and delicious to those who drink it. It will neither dull their senses nor befuddle them.
Koran 56:7-40
They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shalt wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine:
Koran 83:23-26
The righteous will surely dwell in bliss. Reclining upon soft couches they will gaze around them: and in their faces you shall mark the glow of joy. They shall be given a pure wine to drink, securely sealed, whose very dregs are musk...
FRUITS
So far Mohammed has presented a very appetizing picture of Paradise, but then it struck him that sex is no fun on an empty stomach. Besides that one needs lots of nutrition in order to have the energy to perform with so many Houris and young boys. The prophet was an expert on this subject having honoured every one of his numerous wives and mistresses with a nightly visitation on one single night. Besides the only fruits he had ever gotten to taste in this life was some dates and dry pomegranates. So heaven had to be furbished with an inexhaustible supply of every variety of fruits.
The relevant verses from the Koran are: Koran 13:35
This is the paradise which the righteous have been promised.. eternal are its fruits, and eternal are its shades..
Koran 37:40-48
But the true servants of God shall be well provided for, festing on fruit and honoured in the gardens of delight...
Koran 43:68-73
...Such will be the garden of which ye are made heirs for your deeds. Ye shall have therein abundance of fruit, from which ye shall have satisfaction.
Koran 47:15
Here is a Parable Of the Garden which the righteneous are promised: ...In it are rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; And rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; And grace from their Lord..
Koran 55:47-49
Containing all kinds of trees and delights.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?
Koran 55:52-53
In them there will be fruits of every kind, two and two. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?
Koran 55:54-55
...The fruit of the gardens will be near and easy to reach. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?
Koran 55:68-69
In them will be Fruits, And dates and pomegranates: Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?
Koran 44:51-55
...Secure against all ills, they shall call for every kind of fruit..
Koran 56:7-40
They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shalt wait on them immortal youths with ...fruits of their own choices and flesh of fowls that they relish..
Koran 76:13-21
...Reclining there upon soft couches, they shall feel neither the scorching heat nor the biting cold. Trees will spread their shade around them, and fruits will hang in clusters over them...
But the best was yet to come. The highlight of life in Islamic Pardise is the fact that one doesn't have to go to the toilet. All merciful Allah had miraculously provides a much better system for getting rid of body waste. You simple sweat it out (probably after all that sex or belch after consuming all that fruit and wine)
Quote from the Hadiths:
Sahih Muslim Book 39, Number 6798, Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
I heard Allah's Apostle (pbuh) as saying that the inmates of Paradise would eat and drink but would neither spit, nor pass water, nor void excrement, nor suffer catarrh. It was said: Then, what would happen with food? Thereupon he said: They would belch and sweat (and it would be over with their food), and their sweat would be that of musk and they would glorify and praise Allah as easily as you breathe."
WEALTH
Mohammed wanted to ensure that his followers would not be obsessed with 'worldly things' in this life. So he made sure that they have plenty of worldly things to pursue in heaven.
The relevant verses from the Koran are: Koran 22:23
As for those who have faith and who do good work, God will admit them to gardens watered by running streams. They shall be decked with pearls and bracelets of gold, and arrayed in garments of silk.
Koran 43:68-73
Enter ye the Garden, Ye and your wives, in beauty and rejoicing. To them will be passed round, dishes and goblets of gold: there will be there all that soul could desire, all that the eyes could delight in: and ye shall abide there in..
Koran 55:70-77
..They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?
Koran 44:51-55
As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amidst gardens and fountains, arrayed in rich silks and fine brocade...
Koran 55:54-55
They will recline on carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade...
Koran 56:7-40
They shall recline on jewelled couches..
Koran 76:13-21
..They shall be arrayed in garments of fine green silk and rich brocade,and adorned with bracelets of silver..
Mohammed's promise of an Islamic Paradise that glittered with the fulfillment of all sorts of wordly desires and sense enjoyment was nothing but a sinister ploy to recruit those who had no hope or expectation of ever getting these things in their present lives. Knowing that they are assured of such a Paradise simply because they follow Islam, Muslims can go around committing murder, rape plunder and loot. It is the picture of this paradise that has motivated Muslims over the centuries to cut down people of other religions, to desecrate their places of worship and mistreat them in the name of Allah. Even after death, the spritually deprived Prophet of Islam could not see beyond wine, women and food, leave alone exploring spiritual heights of the soul.
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RE: X -- RATED & Perverted World Of Islam -
01-03-2002, 07:35 AM
If organised religion is the opium of the masses, then disorganised religion is the marijuana of the lunatic fringe. - Malaclypse the Younger
:: you are being lied to (but it feels damn good doesn't it?)
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RE: X -- RATED & Perverted World Of Islam -
01-03-2002, 09:22 AM
whats the moral of the story?
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What nonsense!! -
01-03-2002, 09:32 AM
This is such nonsense I do not even know why I am responding........ But here is a quick analysis..............
Not a single one of the Koranic verses mentioned above says anything about sex or homosexuality. The term houri has been distorted out of all recognition it actually means companion. a knowledgeable and chaste companion. People have distorted the meaning to something like pliant virgints.......... In their own wild translations of the Qur'an have used such terms..........
As for Abu Nuwas he was an Arab poet who has nothing to do with Islam except that he claimed to be a muslim..........like David Duke of the KKK claims to be a christian or Hitler claimed to be a christian or Baruch Goldstein who shot dead over 20 muslims at prayer claimed to be a Jew...........
ALL all the verses of the Koran listed above have been misquoted. That is easy to verify just look up any translation by a muslim........... instead of an Orientalist out to distort the Koran.
Propagandas ridiculous statement I will say nothing. The Prophet's record stands for itselfand instead of giving my own statements I shall give what others have said...........
The Encyclopedia Britannica describes him as "the most successful of all religious personalities of the world."
George Bernard Shaw wrote: “I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age.”
"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level." Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.
Lastly if you are going to lie about Islam, at least be original......... do not copy from a polemic site...... and then try to pass on the material as your own.............
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This is not even laughable - it is just vile -
01-03-2002, 09:46 AM
Voice of Reason, can you please get your very basic facts right.
Houri - as moumin says above is a companion. Nothing to do with sex. Orientalists have been busy distorting its meaning for the last few centuries (as they have with Jihad - which means struggle, usually within self, not necessarily war with others, although it could, in one specific instance, mean that too)
Homosexuality - a grave sin in Islam.
As for your statement (if it is yours and not copied from somewhere) "It is the picture of this paradise that has motivated Muslims over the centuries to cut down people of other religions, to desecrate their places of worship and mistreat them in the name of Allah."
I urge you to read up a bit about Islam. The religion asks for its followers to respect other people, regardless of religion, and especially people of the book (Jews and Christians). However, unlike Christianity, Islam is not for turning the other cheek - if there is any oppression anywhere, it is a muslim's duty to fight it until oppression is no more.
As for your other statements about rape loot and plunder - Islamic laws of war are so strict, even cutting fruiting trees is frowned upon, let alone rape or plunder. You clearly have no clue about this religion you have so liberally attacked.
Such vile lies and half-truths have no place on a discussion board. Please do not desecrate this space with such trash.
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RE: What nonsense!! -
01-03-2002, 09:47 AM
bottom line is what is potrayed as the "muslim",to the rest of the world abuses many like you who seem to be real and yet you all do nothing realy to correct these fundamental misinterpreters of THE KORAN!
The real muslims leave this to the rest of the world.the question then arises why? Is it that some agree to the reactions of these misinterpretors or? I am no expert on the KORAN, But i do believe somewhere there is thou shall not kill in some form.
So since you know all this go out to your fake brothers and sisters and correct them first before you worry about those who dont believe and misinterprate the koran in your eyes, only then will it be easier to win Fans!
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RE: This is not even laughable - it is just vile -
01-03-2002, 10:14 AM
Am Christian and i dont condone the potrayal of Islam as a perveted religion, i mean we have the Songs of Solomon which has sex written all over it. So whats the difference?.....i guess the Authors are different but the message is the same.....its all about Sex, sex and more Sex.
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RE: This is not even laughable - it is just vile -
01-03-2002, 10:18 AM
Thank God for the reasoned responses of Moumin and Mwewe. Ill informed judgements by those that fear the religion has demonised Islam.
Kivilo, it is your duty to search out the truth. Just because someone says it, doesn't make it so. As for your assertion:
> The real muslims leave this to the rest of the world.the question then arises why? Is it that some agree to the reactions of these
misinterpretors or? I am no expert on the KORAN, But i do believe somewhere there is thou shall not kill in some form.
A few madmen does not give you the right to condemn the entire faith. Even if they proclaim to do it in the name of Islam.
>So since you know all this go out to your fake brothers and sisters and correct them first before you worry about those who dont believe and misinterprate the koran in your eyes, only then will it be easier to win Fans!
Faith is not about winning "fans". This is not a football match. Those that have genuine interest to study, will learn the truth. Those like you that live in the world of instant gratification, will continue to be fed garbage by the media. You strike me as the kind of person that listens to news headlines and assumes to be informed on the whole story.
Voice of Reason, aspire to your moniker, it's people like you that perpetuate hatred and misinformation just because you don't understand. Start with a little reading. If in doubt, ask,no one knows everything.
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RE: This is not even laughable - it is just vile -
01-03-2002, 10:41 AM
> Kivilo, it is your duty to search out
>the truth. Just because someone says it,
>doesn't make it so. As for your
>assertion:
Now who said i havent searched out the truth?And someone has to have said it or written it before i took it and it surely doesnt look like yours!
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> A few madmen does not give you the
>right to condemn the entire faith. Even
>if they proclaim to do it in the name of
>Islam.
read carefully,i didnot condemn the faith.I condemn the madmen who do it in the name of ISLAM!GET IT!
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> Faith is not about winning "fans". This
>is not a football match.
I am a manchester united fan and i do know the difference but since this was difficult to grasp whenever you see the word "fan" out of context try think broader! In this case it ment believers! GET IT?
Those that have
>genuine interest to study, will learn
>the truth. Those like you that live in
>the world of instant gratification, will
>continue to be fed garbage by the media.
>You strike me as the kind of person that
>listens to news headlines and assumes to
>be informed on the whole story.
psss!attitude boy!HERE YOU THINK YOU KNOW.......PLS KNOW TO THINK AND ASK IF YOU DONT!
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> Voice of Reason, aspire to your
>moniker, it's people like you that
>perpetuate hatred and misinformation
>just because you don't understand.
DO I PERPETUATE HATRED WHEN I ASK OF YOU AND YOURKINDOFBELIEVERS TO CLEAN UP YOUR HOMES BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND CORRECT THOSE WHO CRITICISE THE STENCH THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR WINDOWS?
PS!Please dont comment that religion isnt a house,i,m sure you can manage this one!TRY!
If in doubt,
>ask,no one knows everything.
I ask "does this make sense or war? coz im all LOVE for you when i critisize there behaviours that spoils your FAITH.Dont just bark and bite those out in the field when those putting you in the desperate corner ........you just wiggle your tail past them even though it is them that have put you there!
in shaalah!
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RE: This is not even laughable - it is just vile -
01-03-2002, 10:55 AM
I know NOTHING about Islam so.........but it was interesting to read though!
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